Why is it our responsibility to talk about a subject when you twist every answer into being a cold deceitful spiteful bastard?

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Lol, OP, I am glad I didn't get involved in this thread...you're so lost man.

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Ship...you are like a lot of the newer guys that come here. They have a preconceived notion of what pickup is and automatically believe that they have better morals and ethics than the guys that are here...at the same time, they need help with a woman or women. Throughout this thread you've got solid answers and you argued from the POV of your belief system. The reason you keep being brought into it is because YOU are constantly arguing, so to point out the fallacy in your arguments you are being used as the example so you can understand where the poster is coming from.

I totally get why you are defensive. It's not one guy that is telling you that you are wrong or handle things the wrong way...it's a group of people. The more that you argue with the group, the higher the likeliness that the group will become harsher on you. The sad thing is that none of the criticisms against you is coming from a bad place but you are too emotional and sensitive to accept that people are trying to help you.

You can disagree with everyone here and that's cool with me. To stick around in a place that is not meeting your needs is idiotic. If you aren't being treated in a way that is acceptable to you, just like we would advise a guy in a bad relationship, you should leave.

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Like I said before:

I got the "coldhearted" thing from the strapline off the senior members of your community:
> Heywood Jablowme
> "Being a coldhearted mother fucker wasn't exactly what I had planned on
> doing with my life, but here we are."

I twist nothing. I simply quote.

You've it done again!

Don't bring **ME** into this conversation. I'm not being... anything. It's not about what I'm being. Come on argue the abstract points on their merits! If there are fallacies in my arguments, let's hear what they are? Seriously!

Look, I am here to improve myself, I think you guys - well some of you at least - may be onto something.
However every time you attack ME it comes over as a sign of your weakness. It's like I'm brought up something that you are uncomfortable with, so rather than argue the point in question, you verbally attack me.

To recap, I am simply trying to understand the moral/intellectual framework for what is mean by this community by the terms "masculinity", "strength" & "leading". How hard can that be?

But yet again, and again and AGAIN, you guys all start calling me names! And use ludicrous attacks like I bet this is how he tries to pick up women.
a) you are not women
b) I'm not trying to pick you up
c) this is not a bar/party/social context... this is a discussion forum. For you know, discussing stuff.

Or is it that an abstract conversation simply beyond you guys?

Keep the ME out of it you numbskulls and stick to the frickin point.

You have to be the dimmest new guy that we've had in a while. You asked why you keep getting brought up...this is why. If you don't like the way we respond to you go to a forum that better fits your needs. If we feel like bringing you into a post that you've started we will if it helps make our point. Quit trying to make a point of it and take it for what it is or walk your sensitive ass somewhere else.

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Ah, the old Galileo Gambit:

Criticizing me is a sign of weakness!

No its a sign of annoyance. And it is a common logical fallacy to try to spin criticism back to the critic by saying it indicates some sort of flaw on his or her part. It comes from the idea that Galileo was only attacked for declaring the earth revolved around the sun because it threatened the status quo. You asked a question, people answered, then you rejected the answers, so people will call you out on that. Don't ask a question if you are afraid to hear the answer.

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He doesn't have the strength, masculinity, nor the leadership quality to lead himself to the right answer...how ironic.

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Not to mention the cherry-picking.
Here's a thread full of solid, palpable and applicable advice? Fuck that shit, let's cling and never let go to a quote - of all things - a poster has in his sig. That cold hearter bastard!

What is this Metaphor you speak of? I have never heard of that pokemon before.

Jesus Christ.

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Nope I criticised and questioned their answers.

This is getting dull. If you want to give me personal feedback please do so within other threads where they are relevant and appropriate.

Obviously I can't stop you from writing whatever you want wherever you want - fine if it makes you feel better about yourself go ahead!

However all references to me within this thread are clearly totally irrelevant to this thread which seeks to clearly and cleanly understand the underlying theories and ethics thereof, without cluttering up the whole subject with references to the OP. For this reason I shall ignore all such comments within this thread.

So does anyone have anything constructive to say on the issues in question - i.e. that of "masculinity", "strength" & "leading"?

Yes ship, people will gladly feed you more advise just so you can refute it with more false narratives.

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Nope

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