Hey! I was wandering if any of you guys can give me some tips on how to invalidate pretty women?

I recently watched some videos on Youtube on how to attract women and I learn quite a lot. One of the ways to attract women is to invalidate her from the beginning. You don't acknowledge her until she first shows interest. This is what I've learned through the cat and mouse method. You learn to have women chase you. Women tend to feel attraction toward guys who they have to work for, not for guys that work for them.

So any tips and 1 liners would be greatly appreciate guys!

"invalidate women"?

Errmmmm no.

Fuck the one liners... You say your one line, and then what? It stops, cause your CORE is still shit searching for a quick answer. There is no magic one liner -- whatever you say has to be congruent with who you are or you're being needy / reaction-seeking. Instead, learn to have a playful, light conversation with women and positively challenge them, but avoid those cliched one liners because they're overused.

Haha, give him a break, he is new.


OP. NO. You play that cat and mouse shit when you have the fundamentals down. Then you can play around and fuck with them. I highly suggest you don't go that route because you will probably end up frustrating a lot of women and won't get a clue of when they are at the point of just saying "fuck this guy"


I suggest you read free material on this forum. There are a lot of good posts if you do some digging. Lots of past contributors have come and gone but their posts are still dope.

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Why not? So you rather validate her? lol.

Yes that's true. So what would you say to a 'pretty' woman and positively challenge them? I mean most of the time all other guys all tell her how sweet and pretty she is. So you have to give a different impression.

You can still play with them when you first engage with them - assuming you have the fundamentals down as you've said. The only time I'll stop playing the cat and mouse when she's mine officially, then I'll stop.

OK, suppose you play cat and mouse and none of the women really notice you or give a crap about you anyway?

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I don't agree with the invalidation stuff. It's not because it doesn't work, but it's just unnecessary head games. A woman that you are trying to invalidate...you're only doing it because there is a problem with you, so you are bringing her down to your level. My goal with women is to have them feel good about themselves while they are with me. Basically, bringing her up to my level.

If you go the invalidation route, you'll lose out on confident women because you can't invalidate them.

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This.

And then you'll end up back here wondering why all the women you come in contact with are trainwrecks.

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You have to get into the mindset that you don't need her, but you never tell her. To get her, you have to be okay with losing her. If you validate her it could mean you are showing too much signs of interest. You have to get her to chase you. If you chase her, you lose her. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I've been too nice lately and when I'm nice, I don't get reply back from women. Maybe you have a different experience? Making her feel good like a motivational speaker?

Lmao.

Whatever happened to meeting people because you want to meet them or at least be curious about meeting them ?


If you have a problem with being too nice look up on how to be assertive. This word has gotten me through life just fine.

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I am already in the mindset that I don't need her and I know I don't have to tell her. Wow...as I type this, I realize you don't have a clue. Where are you reading that I am validating women? Right now, you are one of those guys that are caught up in everything is being black or white. Let me break it down so you can understand a bit better...

When I say I make women feel good about themselves because they are with me. It means that they know that when they are around me they know that they aren't with one of those average clowns. I have my shit in order, she won't feel like she's being judged, won't experience head games, and her girlfriends will be jealous of her. No, I don't make women chase me, at the same time, they don't want to lose me.

The fallacy in the girl chases you mentality is that they have to have something to catch. If you are trying to actively lower their self-esteem, the point will come when they realize that you have been influencing them with negative emotions. That leads to resentment and the inevitable loss which you can't recover from because at the end of the day you don't have any real value to her...and that's just with insecure women. Confident women won't fall for the shit you're talking about because they are absolutely sure of their self-worth and you trying to invalidate them about it will never go over.

Tell the truth...what would you rather be: The guy that draws women in without effort and has a hard time getting rid of them or the guy that has to play games and has to fight to hold onto them when they don't want to play anymore?

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Jack said it here, he's one of the few here that actually get it, and the only person I'd actually use as a soundboard on this site.

The distinction between invalidating vs validating, is POWER OVER (domination and being divisive) vs POWER WITH (cooperation and building healthy connections with others). Humans have an innate need for power, but POWER OVER is one of the most malignant and displaced use in meeting this need.