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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:35 am 
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Greetings, all!

I'm a beginner but I've been pondering on this technique for some time.

Basically it's asking a girl a mundane, necessary question, like asking what's the time, and then making an interesting follow-up remark.

For instance, I ask, "sorry, but I don't have a watch. Would you mind telling me the time?"

And then when she answers I comment that her voice sounds funny or something.

So it's a bit different from Style's openers, for instance, since it at first sounds like a question I'd ask anyone, and then a seemingly spur-of-the-moment remark.

So has this been practiced?

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I have adhd. I do this all the time. I can get off topic and go into a nice little rant until the person's like, so you want the time right ?

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For instance, I ask, "sorry, but I don't have a watch. Would you mind telling me the time?"
I've always preferred commenting on something the girl is looking at / doing as opposed to asking about things like directions or the time. Let's face it, we ALL have a phone nowadays, nobody needs to ask for time or directions anymore.


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I usually tell them they're looked cute and I wanted to meet them.

It's not a big deal what you say. Just how you say it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:18 am 
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Agree with RC.

Plus in smartphone generation you should say that you have no phone as well so they think you're not trying to hit on them.


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What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by telling a girl her voice sounds funny?


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What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by telling a girl her voice sounds funny?
I don't know, I just typed that since I was kind of lazy to think of something lol.

Well my idea is simply coming off as interesting without seeming to intend to. See Style's openers might be nice, but I dunno...they might not be the type I'd use on busy women and it may seem strange.

So the thing is I'll ask a question that I may ask any stranger, such as if they could recommend just one nice restaurant nearby, then add in something intriguing.

I.e.,

Me: "Hey there - sorry but I just want to know if you might know a good restaurant nearby?"
Her: "Blah blah blah"
Me: "Ok thanks. I'll think I'll be performing my experiment there."

Then maybe she'll stop and ask "What?"

Then:

Me: "Ah me and my friends are called pick-up artists we do strange things to people in public places etc."
Etc.

I dunno, I'm kind of at a loss for ideas now, basically it's about asking something predictable but tossing in something that will stir curiosity. Then maybe I can keep saying and saying things that will keep her asking and asking more questions, then maybe I can "calibrate" from there or something.

Just an idea.

In fact before I had this unusual idea of actually handing out a short "survey" of random questions ending in "I am a weirdo" with only one choice of answer ("Yes") and then "I should go away" ("Yes") forcing the girl to pick that response.

I haven't tested that yet though.


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Me: "Ok thanks. I'll think I'll be performing my experiment there."

Then maybe she'll stop and ask "What?"

Then:

Me: "Ah me and my friends are called pick-up artists we do strange things to people in public places etc."
Etc.
Look man, I know you said you were a beginner but this is absolutely cringe worthy.

What is it exactly you're trying to accomplish? How do you think telling a woman "you're a pickup artist and you do strange things to people in public" will get her to think "damn, this guy is actually really cool"?

You don't need to creep her the fuck out. Most guys don't have the balls to approach a cute girl. And those who do are usually either cavemen, aggressive and over the top or "poo-ahs" who try to creep their way into her pants.

Be normal. Tell her she looks cute, ask a few random questions to probe her sense of humor and social skills, lightly flirt with her and take it from there.

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Look man, I know you said you were a beginner but this is absolutely cringe worthy.

What is it exactly you're trying to accomplish? How do you think telling a woman "you're a pickup artist and you do strange things to people in public" will get her to think "damn, this guy is actually really cool"?

You don't need to creep her the fuck out. Most guys don't have the balls to approach a cute girl. And those who do are usually either cavemen, aggressive and over the top or "poo-ahs" who try to creep their way into her pants.

Be normal. Tell her she looks cute, ask a few random questions to probe her sense of humor and social skills, lightly flirt with her and take it from there.
Oh...ok.

Yet another bad example of mine, I see.

I'll try another one.

Me: Sorry, would you know if there's anywhere near here where I can buy some food?
Her: *blah blah there's one there blah blah*
Me: Great...I'm out to widen my aesthetics/there is much to life after all/I hope they serve peanut butter/etc.

I don't know, but if some stranger approached me saying these things, I would be a little curious and maybe stop to ask more.

- I'm out to widen my aesthetics.
Her: What's that?
- I dunno...maybe food is like music.
Etc.

- There is much to life after all.
Her: What do you mean?
- (With an air of fascination) Wow...I've specifically invented that second phrase to catch a random person's attention, and it did. (Tones down) Now tell me any joke and then we can go about our business.
Etc.

- I hope they serve peanut butter.
Her: Yes they do/Maybe they do/No they don't/I don't know/Why?
- I'm not sure if your food intake influences your behavior, as it does with me.
Etc.

These are just things, in my view, to act as some sort of "ice-breakers". Then maybe I can do small-talk or PUA routines/whatever from there. Or maybe I can even continue this "chain" of "interesting statements to say" to keep them interested.

I see that you seem to be a fan of direct approaching. I took a peek at your post on texting. It's intriguing stuff.

But what if the girl doesn't find me initially attractive? How will I "flirt"?

Thanks for the responses!


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You just don't get it.


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Do you want a woman to be curious about you, or interested in going out with you?

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- I'm out to widen my aesthetics.
Her: What's that?
- I dunno...maybe food is like music.
Etc.

- There is much to life after all.
Her: What do you mean?
- (With an air of fascination) Wow...I've specifically invented that second phrase to catch a random person's attention, and it did. (Tones down) Now tell me any joke and then we can go about our business.
Etc.

- I hope they serve peanut butter.
Her: Yes they do/Maybe they do/No they don't/I don't know/Why?
- I'm not sure if your food intake influences your behavior, as it does with me.
No one thinks like that. Maybe you'll get a few weird looks, but rarely will any good conversation follow a scripted path. Conversation scripts are reaction-seeking behavior, i.e. needy. Instead just be honest about your intentions. Here, I'll start you off:

You: Hey, I think you're cute and wanted to say hi.

^ how I met my first girlfriend

Asking about restaurants etc is a waste of both of your times unless you were actually curious about it (which you're not, you've got fucking Yelp for that). Instead be honest with your intentions, and take rejections at face value and move on. Your time is far too valuable to be messing around and friendzoning yourself, or at least your time should be that valuable, if it's not focus more on getting your life on track.


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You just don't get it.
What exactly do you mean?
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Do you want a woman to be curious about you, or interested in going out with you?
How are the two exclusive from each other?

Seriously though, I really can't think of any way to actually "attract" a random girl I see in public areas - for instance, in my campus. Then again I haven't read much material. What exactly am I supposed to say to a girl I don't know to make her find me interesting?

Would you suggest simply having small talk or something? Surely there's some sort of preparation needed to be done somehow?

I've read the famous "Mystery Method" and it seems to advocate "creating your own canned material". Aren't the ones I placed above examples of that? Do you believe so-called "indirect openers" are somehow ineffective? I'd like to know.
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No one thinks like that. Maybe you'll get a few weird looks, but rarely will any good conversation follow a scripted path. Conversation scripts are reaction-seeking behavior, i.e. needy. Instead just be honest about your intentions.
I see.

It might seem needy, but I don't think it would if I said it in an "afterthought" basis. When I speak with people, I have a tendency to say certain things to myself. If I went to a cafeteria and looked at the food available, I might say, "oh, that looks like the sweetest candy" without actually telling it straight to the vendor. I'm not waiting for the vendor to react by saying "oh yes it sure is" or something; it's just my own observation.

Maybe you think I meant "saying statements and looking at the girl in the face waiting for her to make a response". I didn't mean that. I simply meant saying statements as a reaction to what she said.

My idea was that if I said random things out of the blue that sounded a little interesting (or even confusing), it might catch the attention of the listener. And when they are interested in what I'm talking about, then they become invested in what I have to say. Isn't this what they call the "social hook point" or something?
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Here, I'll start you off:

You: Hey, I think you're cute and wanted to say hi.

^ how I met my first girlfriend

Asking about restaurants etc is a waste of both of your times unless you were actually curious about it (which you're not, you've got fucking Yelp for that). Instead be honest with your intentions, and take rejections at face value and move on. Your time is far too valuable to be messing around and friendzoning yourself, or at least your time should be that valuable, if it's not focus more on getting your life on track.
So you also advocate direct opening.

Basically, you're saying that I should simply walk to a girl I find attractive, tell her she's cute, and then see if she likes me - if she doesn't, fine, I'll move on to the next girl, if she does, then good. Is that correct?

Do you think all these PUA "routines" then are somehow unneeded? Because a lot of what I've read regarding PUA seems to stem around generating interest without actually revealing your own interest.

I wonder myself if Mystery actually ever approached girls in clubs and told them directly that they're cute, and had succeeded with them. It seems to be contrary to his own methodology. Not that I'm saying that he's the only legitimate "guru" out there, of course.

P.S. Sorry if I seem a little too "skeptical" or something, I just want to find out what you guys have to say on these matters.


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Mystery was suicidal. Just throwing that out there.
Does that seem like a guy who had his shit together?

You don't need canned material, scripted routines or any shit like that. You have to be normal, uncreepy and confident.

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It might seem needy, but I don't think it would if I said it in an "afterthought" basis. ... My idea was that if I said random things out of the blue that sounded a little interesting (or even confusing), it might catch the attention of the listener.
It's not about seeming non-needy, it's about being non-needy. You're going through so much shit to "catch" her attention, everything about it is needy. You're so invested in the outcome to the point of being insecure.


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