All the advice tells you that the one universal thing that girls are attracted to is social status? So I have to be the fucking president or something? I'm not sure this is accurate. What kind of "normal" person has "social status?" This doesn't even make sense.

I think more accurately, as long as you are well-groomed and well-dressed, you should be alright. Do you agree or disagree? What is "social status" anyway?

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I am living proof that it is false. Girls will happily fuck you, but would not trust you with a $1,000, Let the guys that treat her to resturant meals and vacation, while I will be the guy she fucking after her outing.

Being sex worthy is more likely to get you sex. The club promoter might have poor closing skills and is relying too much on his social status to compensate for lack of game.

Of course it's easier to meet people with social status, but you do NOT have to be the highest value guy in there. When you're escalating smoothly like a boss, your value will be raised.

All these threads by the way,

Mental masturbation

What is stopping you from getting laid? What is CURRENT sticking point(s) ? When was the last time you went out and what happened?

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Sticking points:

I don't talk when I go out. I don't look approachable despite dressing well. Poor eye contact. I don't have any good "openers" (even though I THINK I know it's unnecessary to have scripted lines), I'm too nice when I talk and I don't bring up any topics that are more than boring, I never bring up the topic of sex, I don't get on the dance floor and if I did, my social status would be diminished permanently, by the time a club gets packed and super loud, it's like I'm lost in a sea of people more socially capable than me.

Also, the fact that I live 20 miles away in a nice house I just bought. Messes up logistics in the back of my mind.

Do you go out alone? I always do.

I know pickup lines are a thing of the past, but what actual words do you use when you go up to a girl? It can't all be just relying on them to go up to you on the dance floor. The best advice I've gotten so far is "smile, be confident, and introduce yourself," but that hasn't seemed to work for me so far.

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Any idea how to solve this? This is the whole point of canned routines. Are you sure it's just not approach anxiety? I am confident that is the problem. You are not having fun. Treat clubs like a playground for adults. Not a PUA field
Easy fix, but when you talk to 100's of girls this will develop till the point that the girls look down instead of you
Again, this is the whole point of canned material. Do your homework
why would you? You are not talking to women, you are just choding in the corner by yourself
This is false, it is better to be the bad dancer that is having fun in his own world than the expert dancer trying to impress people to get girls. Again, you're just being scared.
Why not go to bars or do daytime approached instead? You are obviously relying on alcohol. This is evidently too much of the deep end for you at this moment in time
Focus on solid phone numbers. It is still possible to get dates regardless of living situation. Figure that out AFTER you are getting frequent dates. Again, night clubs are more for SNL's so you should really try some day-time stuff?
Not really, I like to meet other guys that do the same thing. I do online game when i'm all alone...Why not find pick up guys in your local area and find some wingmen? This can be a massive boost to your progress with people on the same path

I would highly advise you take a boot camp or one on one training. You are just not independently making shit happen, it's so easy to chode when you are on your own in crazy sensory overloaded environment like a night club

I can tell that you're brain is going haywire right now, focus on one thing at time

You are too busy focusing on getting same night sex with 10s' - Scrap that.

You should be focused on your sticking points which are:
- Not being alone
- Canned lines
- Approach anxiety

You can blast these sticking points within 1/2 weekends. Then create the next line of sticking points.

Focus on them thing's for the time being, sex is a long way off for you just yet. Be patient, focus on the actual problems themselves, one a time.

It's like you are learning all these detailed compound exercises and then standing in the corner of the gym not even lifting weights. That isn't progress.

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Social status IS attractive...along with a number of other factors.

You don't have to be the best looking guy in the world to be laid...just like you don't have to be the most famous person in the world to get laid.

However, if you're good looking, that will HELP and IMPROVE your chances, but will not guarantee anything.

Likewise for social status.


Social status generally means that you are "popular" and well liked in a social circle or group.

Stop saying social status is not that important t because it will make girls stick to you for longer instead of dumping your ass in a second after your first mistake. Most women ARE whores, even many of those whom you think are not. Money means survival of her offsprings. It's as strong in getting girls as a sense of humor or even confidence... You don't have to have a lot of money to get laid, though...

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Certainly seems like it, there was this girl in my class (seemed like the sweetest, most innocent girl ever) till she started cheating on my friend. Guess he got more invested than the woman.

I have met girls that I took home from night clubs. When I took them back to my city centre place, they started to ask what I did for a living. I kept it vague and they kept asking me if I was rich. (You don't have to be rich to get a city centre place)

Anyway, I banged and I wanted to convert her to a fuck buddy............She flaked on the text.

Why would she flake if I was rich? (in her head) Why did she give sex on the same night instead of pushing me for dinner dates?

In my opinion, I am providing pleasure, not social status, I met her on the street on the way to a bar so I was not the highest value male in the vicinity, I wasn't surrounded by babes hanging off me like snot

I am confident, I escalated, provided her with pleasure and arousal and she got it. Girls automatically assume you're high value if you do these things perhaps...Being smooth is the biggest 'DHV' for you, instead of some made up stripper story. It is perceived value.

I think you guys are doing it wrong if you think of women this way. Yes, there are some exceptions but surely they are the minority and not the majority? Surely?

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You're hilarious, like in a retarded sorta way.

Social status and seduction are two different things.

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Here's the day I had yesterday.

I went to this rich part of town where expensive clothing stores, expensive restaurants line the streets. I asked some female store clerks if they knew where a barber was. They didnt, but I found one anyway.

I made some small talk with the barber. I told her I just saw some famous lawyer walking down the street (which was true). We ended up talking about all kinds of things like where she is from (not the rich part of town) and a host of other things. This was my first expensive hair cut and I felt nice. I felt like all the girls were looking at me as I walked the strip. I also had some nice clothes that I bought from that area last week.

I went into this wine bar and I just drank water (really trying not to drink). They didn't have anything on the menu that was vegan so I was going to ask these two HOT girls sitting next to me if there was any vegan restaurants around. They were in the middle of a conversation and the body language just wasn't right, so I ended up asking the bartender.

The point is, I CAN be social with women and I think if I do this every day, it should come easy to me.

Why do you say that sex is a long way off? I've been with over 50 girls (most of which I met online) and I know that I'm good in bed, which to the best of my knowledge is something that girls look for.

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You ask them, not the bartender.

that was a cop out. You were social but you took the safe route. You asked the bartender instead of those two hot girls. So your point is moot.

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Go by "shoot first, ask questions later". You don't need permission to open during a conversation. Most of the time, women start conversations out of boredom. It's not like you will be ruining something major by entering.