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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:27 am 
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why is saying "hi" so awkward in America?

I have been saying "hi" to girls for ever and I did not realize I am being awkward until I saw this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2myUPqJcUmQ

LOL that's exactly how I say hi to people in real life.

in my country, it is highly rude to not say hi before you start talking to someone. even when a husband and wife are going through a divorce and they hate each others guts, when they go to the court, the first thing they say to each other is "hi" absolutely 100% of the time. you just do not start talking to someone, you say hi first.

here in America, when I say "hi" I feel like alarms start going off in the girl's head. like "oh no, someone is talking to me, I better crawl into this shell to protect myself"
but if I just start talking to her without saying "hi" she doesn't become all bitchy. but I feel rude just talking without saying hi. again, in our culture it is the most disrespectful thing you can do by not saying hi.

so should I abandon this "hi" thing and just start talking to her?
why does the pussy dry up when I say hi?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:41 am 
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I don't see a problem with hi (Only with online dating its an issue)

But you will have to contribute after it. I recommend an introduction of your name and a statement to why you are approaching her

Or a hooker

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:42 am 
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I don't see a problem with hi

But you will have to contribute after it. I recommend an introduction of your name and a statement to why you are approaching her

Or a hooker
Dragula,

actually, I was about to add this to my original post. after I say hi, I wait for her to say hi. I will not go on until I hear that word. I think that's the problem.
hooker: I would love to but I still dont know how I can be sure that she is not a cop.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:45 am 
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Bartm

Okayyy...

You : Hi
her: Hi

What then? You approached her so she ain't gonna start telling you about her day, is she? It requires some additional contribution on your part....imagine if a homeless person did the same thing to you? You'd be like....'And...?'

I heard in some states such as Vegas that prostitution is legal, I am not sure about that but I am pretty sure the cop thing could be an excuse

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:56 am 
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Come on bartm, surely you are way passed the open stage by now? What have you been doing this whole time?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:16 am 
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Come on bartm, surely you are way passed the open stage by now? What have you been doing this whole time?
Dragula,

here is the thing. I have not had any motivation for the past probably 2 weeks. as you can see in my journey, I suddenly stopped. I don't know if this is what I want to do with my life. I dont think having a girl will make me happy. also, I dont think I have what it takes to make HER happy. I feel bad for any girl that ends up with me. I dont see any reason why a girl would be happy being with me.

I have done opens before. I think you have seen them in my journey. the good ones are always when I just start talking. "excuse me, you're the most beautiful girl I have seen in the last 10 minutes" - no hi

In your example I said hi and she said hi.
but the problem with your example is it doesn't happen that way. usually I say hi and she doesn't say anything. I am telling you, "hi" dries up the pussy. every time I say hi, based on her body language I can tell she gets alarmed and crawls into a shell. girls hate it. I partly blame salesmen for this, because they always start like this: "hi. do you want to help save a child?" I dont know, maybe I am talking out of my ass.

what you heard is a misconception. although prostitution is rampant in las vegas, it is illegal. prostitution is legal in some parts of nevada, but only if done in an official brothel, cannot be on the street. I would not drive all the way to nevada for pussy, I am not that desperate.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:22 am 
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In your example I said hi and she said hi.
but the problem with your example is it doesn't happen that way. usually I say hi and she doesn't say anything. I am telling you, "hi" dries up the pussy.
Don't do it then. The fact you're expecting it to dry up is the law of attraction working against you. Now if you wete EXPECT her to reciprocate, then will probably say HI. But AGAIN, why not just use a frigging opener until you develop a tough skin? Why would you use something like 'Hi?' - my point is, if you have confidence then you can get away with that in your case...Perhaps use something proven? Not even a compliment? REALLY? You would rather choose 'Hi?'...?????????????????????? Come on...
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I am not that desperate.


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here is the thing. I have not had any motivation for the past probably 2 weeks. I don't think this is what I want to do with my life. I don't think having a girl will make me happy.
Perhaps you should move on from this? I really think you are wasting your time. I am not the type of guy that sugar coats shit. You are wasting your time, you better just leave, try to enjoy life and hope to get lucky like most typical guys. You are not a lion. You not even one of those fishes that swim under a shark for protection. You are plankton waiting to be eaten up by this unforgiving thing called 'Life'

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:34 am 
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ok, thank you, Dragula. you've cared about me like a brother.

I hate canned openers because they sound lame but strangely those have higher success rates out of everything I have tried. my best one is "you're the most beautiful girl I have seen in the last 10 minutes" they love it, but when I say that I dont know how to continue. credit to sasha daygame for that line.

I just dont see any reason why a girl would be happy being with me. I feel sorry for whoever ends up with me. I dont have what it takes to make someone happy.

in addition to the above, I dont think someone else could make me happy. what the hell am I gonna do with a girl? go to Italy with her? go to the bar with her? go to the movies with her? I dont think I would enjoy those activities? maybe I am just a loner. I dont want anybody in my life, I just dont enjoy company? I can tell you when I was a kid and my parents would invite people over, I hated it.


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why does the pussy dry up when I say hi?
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ok, thank you, Dragula. you've cared about me like a brother.

I hate canned openers because they sound lame but strangely those have higher success rates out of everything I have tried. my best one is "you're the most beautiful girl I have seen in the last 10 minutes" they love it, but when I say that I dont know how to continue. credit to sasha daygame for that line.

I just dont see any reason why a girl would be happy being with me. I feel sorry for whoever ends up with me. I dont have what it takes to make someone happy.

in addition to the above, I dont think someone else could make me happy. what the hell am I gonna do with a girl? go to Italy with her? go to the bar with her? go to the movies with her? I dont think I would enjoy those activities? maybe I am just a loner. I dont want anybody in my life, I just dont enjoy company? I can tell you when I was a kid and my parents would invite people over, I hated it.
Why don't you just chop your dick off and move to the forest?


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hi bart.

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Hey Bart. I'd consider porn and a sex toy at this point. Or a escort

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:25 am 
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n2thevoid,
you're right. that is, if I understood you correctly. if I am not mistaken, you're being sarcastic, you're trying to say I do want someone in my life, right? otherwise I would chop my dick off and move to the forest. you know, since yesterday my opinion changed. today I went out and met this armenian girl, although it was brief and it didn't get anywhere, I flirted a little bit, just the flirting was nice. I could see myself going to places with her and fucking her.

I am also going to make a separate post regarding a suggestion you gave me couple of weeks back. you said something like "fall in love with yourself, do whatever the fuck you want, take off your shirt, chase a chicken down the lane" although I didnt chase a chicken, I did do something similar and that was really life changing. I fell in love with myself and felt complete. but it was temporary. I will make a separate post about it later on.

Heywood,
hi.

Mr. Assertive,
I am considering all my options as far as the sex industry. also, one suggestion you gave me was interesting, you said I should find a way to get people to open up. I am still trying to figure out how. "where are you from" and shit like that doesn't open them up.


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Bart, next time record your attempts, post it as a private video on youtube, and PM me. There's probably something fucked up about your approach / how you lead the convo that you're not catching on.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:02 am 
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LMAO THAT TOP YOUTUBE COMMENT
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did you tell them afterwards that it was just a prank bro and that you didn't really mean to say hi
A little off topic, but I would say that this video is a successful execution of the Newbie Mission. In the context of the Newbie Mission, the goal is to simply perform the action; it's not results-oriented. It helps the newbie get out there and get used to making attempts at establishing interactions.

If you want to get a little more advanced than that, tweaking your body language and stuff like that will actually get you much better results than is shown in the video. For example, in almost all instances of the guys saying "hi," they were very far away and it was very unclear most of the time who the guy was saying "hi" to.

Also, if you use a different, more relaxed (yet still loud and firm) voice tone, you're more likely to get favorable responses. The tone those guys was using was very...not that.

As for the specific things bartm is whining about, I'm not even going to bother. You've got way too many issues that start in your head, dude. Change the way you think about shit in accordance to the advice I and everyone else have already given you in all your other threads. The state of your inner game is catastrophic and you're here asking about outer game shit all the time. smh.


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