Acceptable upper arm circumference?



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:40 pm 
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I've got pretty big arms. Girls definitely look at me more... But they won't approach you.

It's kinda like being a girl with pretty eyes. If you've got an ugly face... The eyes don't really make a difference.

Squats and deadlifts will get you more ass than some bicep curls.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:54 am 
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Are you fuckers seriously debating how big your arms must be in order to be approached by women?

What the fuck is wrong with you?
Ahahahahaha. I nearly spit my coffee


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:12 pm 
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lol, I get the sarcasm, but being muscular is very helpful.

Sure, we've all seen the empty-headed insecure gym rat, but a guy with good inner game and a great body is going to have an advantage over a guy with just good inner game.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:24 pm 
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lol, I get the sarcasm, but being muscular is very helpful.

Sure, we've all seen the empty-headed insecure gym rat, but a guy with good inner game and a great body is going to have an advantage over a guy with just good inner game.
Wrong, because inner game and looks are not all there is.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:20 am 
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I'm blown away that someone would think that an absolute number (arm measurement of some kind) is going to get women to approach them.

A few points:

1) Proportionate physique is more important and largely determined by your frame size. If you are small-mid framed (such as myself, and 1.68m .. 5'6) - my max arm size is 16.5" flexed and I'm at 15" now, which is 90% of potential.. as an intermediate lifter. At that level, even without flexing/pump, I don't look like I have untrained arms. For more about this, see research by Casey Butt:

http://www.weightrainer.net/potential.html

2) With regards to actual research into opposite sex attractiveness, here's some:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... -you-think

"Their shocking finding was that, by far, the most attractive features fell under the category of "self care". These features were changeable aspects like good grooming, neat hair, nice fitting and quality clothing, good posture, and healthy weight."

"Masculinity, somewhat attractive to women, was comprised of some of the stable features (depending on your gym time) of muscularity, shoulder width, larger chest, and a bigger jaw."

Shoulder width likely also related to your shoulder-to-waist ratio (and chest-to-waist) which give you that "V-taper" look. Some of this will be genetic, unfortunately.

And this also jives with that is the best survey I've seen from Men's Health, regarding what women think makes men attractive (a sample of ~1000 women):

http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/top ... -she-wants

Women were given a choice of 20 traits, and the % value below represents the proportion of them that put the specific trait into their top 10:

Sense of Style 30%
Handsome Face 26%
Height 15%
Muscular Build 13%
Fitness 12%


The conclusion here is simple when you combine the research with the survey: the way you dress and take care of yourself is the # priority for being attractive to women. Your best bet to have them approach you is dressing in an attractive way ("sense of style"). Ironically, if you're dressing well (especially going out to a nicer place) you're going to be wearing long sleeve clothing - so your arm size is largely going to be completely irrelevant. Want to show off your arms and abs to (desperately) try and attract women? You're going to have to move somewhere really warm first ;)

A handsome face is largely a personal preference to women, but I suspect proper skincare/shaving helps here.

Lastly, being lean is important.. and being lean + muscular = bonus. Lots of places on the internet you'll also hear that reasonable amounts of lean muscle are preferred to large bodybuilder sized arms.

And if you want height, the only thing you can do is wear shoes that will give you a little bit of a boost and have good posture.

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Being fit is an advantage, always will be.
This is true though.

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Although it helps, it's no magic pill either.

You also most count factors such as height and BMI.

At 6' 200-lbs I was at 17.5. very low body fat %. Due to an injury I've been out for a year. Feeling kind of gelatinous SPAM hate it.

And I am 6'3 130. Thanks, I guess I have to take steroids and t-boosters whenever I get to start working out.
Dont destroy your health for the sake of women. It doesn't matter how good looking you are the majority of women still aren't going to approach you. As the man thats your job.

I'm not really wanting to work out for women. I live in SC and I honestly don't think it's a big deal. I see a lot of out of shape(not fat unless beer belly, fat muscular) people with some nice looking women. I'm just really envious of the upper status guys that do work out and also want to have nice clothing form.


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You can't evade reality.

Being fit is an advantage, always will be.
This is true though.
In shape? Sure, because social norms teach us growing up that being overweight is bad. But a guy who's just in good shape vs a bodybuilder? Negligible. Considering how retarded the question of this thread is, I'm willing to opt towards the latter. Guys gotta go talk to girls and make exercise solely about being healthy, which is an entirely different subject.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:49 am 
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But a guy who's just in good shape vs a bodybuilder? Negligible.
If the bodybuilder has the same inner natural game/value as the good shape guy, he's going to get the girls who like big muscles, too.

Girls see big arms and shoulders and see babies. It's freaking hilarious. It's the same affect cleavage has on us. And if you have a brain/hygiene/value + outstanding muscle build (IE much more effort than Johnny Treadmill or Jimmy Mountainbike...more like Brad Pitt or Hugh Jackman), you will be dating hot 20-somethings until you die.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:23 am 
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Girls see big arms and shoulders and see babies.
Then you see studies that show that girls settle with less attractive- provider-men because they don't see babies and long-term with unpredictable 'Hunks' that have temptations and many options

(I'm not disagreeing by the way)

Like I mentioned before, be above average with everything:
- Lifestyle
- Confidence
- Looks
- Wealth
- Health

...And reap the above average rewards including above average girls. but if you rely solely on one or the other, then that is when insecurity is going fuck with your rewards.

. I don't have much muscle but I am pretty happy with my love life but I got my other shit together.

I am about to sign up tp the gym today actually

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Like I mentioned before, be above average with everything:
- Lifestyle
- Confidence
- Looks
- Wealth
- Health

and reap the above average rewards including above average girls. but if you rely solely on one or the other, then that is when insecurity is going fuck with your rewards.
This should be a sticky.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:43 am 
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Thanks, bro

Also, I would like to mention additionally:

- Everyone knows a rich dude that is still hoping girls will flock because he holds a BMW keyring in his hand

- Everyone knows an adonis gym rat who pretends that he doesn't go to the gym to attract a girl, that is the most insecure dude ever because he sees a skinnier guy with a girl he likes...

- Everyone knows that person who pretends to eat clean but eats KFC and thinks the because chicken has protein - that is is good for him/her then blames genetics to other people who are healthy

- Everyone knows someone who is keen on broadcasting their 'amazing' lifestyle on Facebook for the validation from others because he isn't truly happy with his/her life

- And so on

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I'm just really envious of the upper status guys that do work out and also want to have nice clothing form.
Don't envy success. Cheer it on.

The difference is paramount. You're telling your subconscious brain that you like and approve of success.

Then act. Work towards that success.


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