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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:07 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4jIlFwuLU
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Want to come to dinner with me? (want some dick?)

Want to come on a trip with me? (want some dick?)
Attractive guy = Her - ' yeah okay'

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Want to come to dinner with me? (want some dick?)

Want to come on a trip with me? (want some dick?)
Shrek pua = her - 'Lol nah'

Do cheesy chat up lines work? They seem to work more for attractive guys.

'Fast learners; on bootcamps? Attractive guys

I don't get why this is an endless debate. The fact that you think a 10 requires different game only means you've never come close to one. Please stop using the number rating system and adopt a 'Attractive' and 'Not attractive' mindset, you might actually get somewhere if you think of women like this.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:11 pm 
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That's true in a broader criteria but I'm only refering to a girls looks in this scenario, and attractivness perception and rating is hardwired into the male brain and also cross cultural in its appreciation and agreement.
Wrong because I'm talking in the looks criteria as well. Your 10 will be different than my 10. My brother's 10 is different than my 10. My best friend's 10 is different than my brother's 10 and my 10. All of this based on looks alone. A 10 is subjective when it comes to looks.
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A direct approach means making your intentions clear that you find her beautiful but not to the level you will be upset if she doesn't like you as you're outcome independent.
I get it. You don't know what direct is.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:16 pm 
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I don't get why this is an endless debate. The fact that you think a 10 requires different game only means you've never come close to one. Please stop using the number rating system and adopt a 'Attractive' and 'Not attractive' mindset, you might actually get somewhere if you think of women like this.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially since his example was a girl that was so hot that she pawned him off on some friends. And then again he used the benefit of being direct as the hot girl would introduce you to their friends.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:48 pm 
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Indeed they do, but dinner invites? Trip invites?.... You ever seen that Chris Rock sketch where he jokes that everything you say to an attractive woman means the same thing: "want some dick?"

Want to come to dinner with me? (want some dick?)

Want to come on a trip with me? (want some dick?)

Women aren't stupid as regards mens intentions and 10's have heard and seen it all, like you say they have guys approaching them all the time both directly and indirectly. A direct approach (as in walking over) and an invitation to dinner is still an indirect invitation to some dick.

A direct approach means making your intentions clear that you find her beautiful but not to the level you will be upset if she doesn't like you as you're outcome independent.
Yes they get dinner and trip invites.

So somehow, everything a guy says is an invitation for dick, but a direct approach is different? I could say a dinner invitation signals you find her beautiful but not to the level you will be upset if she doesnt like you. I can say the same about a trip invite. Somehow, whatever you words you say, or your body language, signal to a woman that you're outcome independent after telling her she's beautiful, but nah everything other guys say just comes off as they will be upset. And women are distinguishing these nuances, even if what you said is true, in a noisy bar with alcohol in their system. When you say you're beautiful, she can tell like some jedi stuff than you're outcome dependent, the last 3 dudes who just said the same...well she picked up they would be upset and they didnt get the confident label.

If you've met or dated a 10,8 or whatever, its all the same. The guy who comes up to her and says she's beautiful, she only goes out with him if she's attracted to his other qualities off the bat. They accept straight up dinner invites. They accept straight up trip invites. If I'm in a hurry, I may tell a cashier we should go out sometime. Then we hook up. I don't delude myself into thinking she admired my balls for asking her out. She was attracted to me from the jump, I just asked her out.

As Jack said, the direct game theory needs to stop. Guys will argue its the best because women will be turned on due to your strong intent. Now its your aloofness that will attract them. And luckily, the rest of the world doesnt approach her directly! Just direct with indirect invitations for dick. 10's get approached 1000's of times, but luckily few real direct approaches. Like no guy thinks he should take the shot. And somehow, an ugly guy who approaches her, knowing her cant get her will cry and be upset if she rejects him. You know what an ugly guy does when he approaches a hot girl and she rejects him? Most likely he laughs cause he knew it was coming and walks off. You standing there, taking shit tests, is outcome independent compared to that?

A girl doesnt pawn you off an average looking guy to her friends because she admires his balls.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:56 pm 
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I don't get why this is an endless debate. The fact that you think a 10 requires different game only means you've never come close to one. Please stop using the number rating system and adopt a 'Attractive' and 'Not attractive' mindset, you might actually get somewhere if you think of women like this.
You're thinking in black and white Dragula. There a varying grades of attractivness. Whilst the fundamentals of what attracts women are hardwired into a woman's brain their psychology in the way they interact with men is different. A 5 may be more than likely be glad of attention from a guy and be complicit in her own seduction whilst a 10 will be sick and tired of it and have a multitude of screening techniques and shit tests ready for Mr afc purely as a time management system.

Women will test you and the more attractive they are the more they will test you.

The two main tests are.

1/ Confidence.

2/ Trust.

Demonstrate these and you attraction level improves but only so far. Like I said "they're not magic bullets".

Shrek pua/balls of uranium + 10....nah too much of a jump.

7 guy/afc + 10.....nah.

7 pua/balls of uranium.....maybe.
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Wrong because I'm talking in the looks criteria as well. Your 10 will be different than my 10. My brother's 10 is different than my 10. My best friend's 10 is different than my brother's 10 and my 10. All of this based on looks alone. A 10 is subjective when it comes to looks.
Appreciation of female beauty is hardwired into the male brain. Whilst there will be some subjective influence according to a guy's "type". You both "know" a beautiful woman when you see one.
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I get it. You don't know what direct is.
The same thing it has meant the last 20 years since the term was first coined by the then fledgling pua movement.

Approaching a woman and making your intentions clear.
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I was thinking the same thing. Especially since his example was a girl that was so hot that she pawned him off on some friends. And then again he used the benefit of being direct as the hot girl would introduce you to their friends.
The law of unintended consequences. It was an anecdote. Think of it as an exaption on the methodolgy.
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10's get approached 1000's of times, but luckily few real direct approaches.
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When you say you're beautiful, she can tell like some jedi stuff than you're outcome dependent, the last 3 dudes who just said the same...well she picked up they would be upset and they didnt get the confident label.
Indeed she did...but what....what if you really are outcome independent? What if you're a pua who knows exactly whats coming? The probationary "confidence" label she gives you gets a barrage of tests, takes them all and shrugs them off. Your confidence is "approved". The frame is held.

Take it from me guys: Approaching a 10 with no confidence won't get you anywhere at all unless you look like Brad Pitt.

Approaching a 10 with balls of steel will get you further than you think. If you're a 7 or 8 in looks then just do it but you have to walk the walk. The direct approach got the invitation, she wants you to succeed but the rest is up to you. The ball's in your hand so don't drop it.

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Appreciation of female beauty is hardwired into the male brain. Whilst there will be some subjective influence according to a guy's "type". You both "know" a beautiful woman when you see one.
What does this have to do with anything? Again...you are saying that direct is best for 10s while agreeing that there is no such thing as a 10.
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The same thing it has meant the last 20 years since the term was first coined by the then fledgling pua movement.

Approaching a woman and making your intentions clear.
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A direct approach means making your intentions clear that you find her beautiful but not to the level you will be upset if she doesn't like you as you're outcome independent.
Neither one of your descriptions of what direct is really define what it means to be direct. As far as I can tell, you define it as directly saying that you find a woman attractive.

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This thread has gotten way out of control and completely pointless.


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Now that i think about it sometimes I approach an average to ugly girl and they reject me? But if you approach total hotties they're less bitchy... Like if i approach a girl i actually like the chances of rejection are low but if I dont like them I get rejected. Maybe "types" are encoded in our DNA have heard that people don't like people with too much of the same DNA profile as them.


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You're subconsciously doing something wrong lol

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Maybe "types" are encoded in our DNA have heard that people don't like people with too much of the same DNA profile as them.
LMFAO.

What a cliche pick up forum way to end things.


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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... ct-partner Proof


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"Proof" of nothing, just a theory, one of many.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:54 pm 
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If it is a facebook article, then it MUST be true

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:29 pm 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_his ... _selection

There's a lot of science behind it.

But as regards game there are way more important things to be concerned about.

Although it's more folk wisdom in the community than proven I would agree that gaming whilst in another country does seem easier.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_his ... _selection

There's a lot of science behind it.

But as regards game there are way more important things to be concerned about.

Although it's more folk wisdom in the community than proven I would agree that gaming whilst in another country does seem easier.
There's no compelling evidence that this applies to humans, in fact there have been several recent studies which challenge the hypothesis.


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