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I know I have to neg the sh*t out of them, lower their self esteem
no no no.
Stop telling them they're cute.
Treat them like one of your bros.
Bust on them in a PLAYFUL manner. This is the 'negging' that works. I.e. "look what you've done blah blah" PLAYFULLY.
sPIT IN Front of them.
Etc.
Don't fucking try to lower their self esteem.
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Starting off the interaction with more truly confident alpha body language and tone, with awesome interesting conversation, does wonders with high value woman.
A lot of this comes more natural as you better yourself, learn what your capable of, and deserve, as you stop portraying your the shit, or knowing your the shit, and just being it
This every day. with the exception of "awesome interesting conversation." Talk to her about your dry skin. If you deliver it in the way that you know you always get positive responses, you WILL get a positive response from the girl. This "hot" girl is thinking, hmm he's talking to me about his dry skin (or whatever). It speaks volumes about you as a man.