Who can think of a good opener using this premise...

You are walking down a path and there's a fork in the road, one way leads to (or looks like).... And the other leads to (or looks like).... Which way would you go?

Her: "______"

You: Why?

I would take a super direct approach on this. I haven't field tested this yet, but it would be fun to try.

One way: My place

Other way: Your place

If you go with the right vibe and frame, she will play along and answer. I wouldn't even ask why after she answers, but start calibrating based on her receptiveness and escalate to a kiss quickly and pull.

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I was wanting to use it for online game.

I have no idea what you're trying to do

This would work better in mid-game, but it's not my style as well. I would be a little more coy, playful and mention doing something innocent (non-sexual) back at one of our places while I'm heavily escalating on her to cause cognitive dissonance.

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Plausible deniability. What do you normally use?

It can considered plausible deniability, but the things I talk about doing are exaggerated and obviously not to be taken seriously so she knows what's up. Depending on what we talked about, I would say silly things like going back to her place to "water her plants", "plan our overseas trip", "do some yoga", "bake cookies", etc. It will cause her to laugh as it shows humor and social intelligence.

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Listen buddy, at the moment specific structured lines or routines should not be your main focus. What SHOULD be your main focus?

Your attitude, mindset, beliefs, body language, and tonality.

From what I've read about you, these are what are really limiting your success with women. No matter how great a line you have, if it isn't delivered congruently then it's not gonna work.

From all the indications you've given us, these important points are "off" for you. (You mentioned that someone told you that you give off a serial killer type of vibe).

I'll strongly, strongly , STRONGLY advise that you focus on these points before going into the theory of specifics of what to say.

You may be asking, how do you fix this?

REAL WORLD ADVICE AND MODELLING.

You need someone to physically and in person display those mindsets, behaviours, and body language that you should be displaying. I'd suggest:

1. Get a GOOD wing that you can go out with, observe, and then do your best to emulate the GOOD points of his behaviour
2. Get a GOOD instructor who will offer in person coaching
3. Watch videos of guys who are GOOD with women and emulate what they do and to some extent say

Body language and tonality are surface things that can be fixed fairly quickly.

Attitude, mindset, and beliefs are all another way of saying the same thing and might take some time.

Dress game is on point, at least in my own head...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkwu8zhslfton ... 4.jpg?dl=0

A major thing holding me back is that I don't talk.

And sometimes I'll say something to a girl and get some attitude like I don't even deserve to be talking to her and I wonder why.... Example, last night...

Me: is this where the wine tasting was earlier?
Her: I have NO idea

Why can't I punch this bitch in the face?