Dude...why do you keep responding to things I never said. I said men need to do something. You respond by telling me how bad the laws are. What does that have to do with men doing something?

I'm on Earth. You know, the planet where women get paid less than men for the same job, get sexually assaulted way too often, are still often seen as weaker and stupider than men. You mention two advantages they have, but those are pretty much the _only_ two advantages they have.

Yes, they often are more career oriented. They are ALSO being told they should focus on having kids, especially by many of their elders. Mixed messages, you see.

Just like men get messages that we need to be bold and go after women, but ALSO get told by extreme feminists that approaching a woman is tantamount to rape.

Basically the entire world is fucked, and everyone is arguing with each other because the most vocal retards have gotten a voice through the internet.

But you probably only learned to "go for what you want" through PUA, right? Because through most of your childhood you saw messages telling you to just wait and hope your woman came to you, right?

I don't even know what you're talking about at this point... what does that have to do with everyone fucking everyone or Versalis' natural eugenics argument?
On the contrary I constantly see advice about screening women and being selective, getting them to qualify to you and such. Many men probably ignore that advice to an extent because they'd rather get laid, but it's still being advised.

There does seem to be a variety of inconsistencies in societal narratives. I think people need to bang the gunz. Follow their own journey in life assuming it is not hurting anybody else in the process.
Its chaos. Like I said before, I thought I would be married with children by now if you had asked me a decade ago. As more time passes, I question it but, I feel like something will resonate at some point. Women are taught they do not need men. When they want children in their mid to late 20s, suddenly they need a man. My fear is being conned into a situation. My approach is to value women beyond attraction. What qualities, talents, character does she have and provide? What resources does she have? Is her shit handled? Does she have a great career? How is her financial health? Despite being attractive, does she workout? does she eat well or treat her body like a dump truck?


A combo of a variety of things from Tai Lopez, Schwarzenegger's autobiography, PU, David Deida, Anthony Robbins, and a number of resources. You are correct that, it was something I had to learn rather than an innate routine. Likely, for us all, it is a innate routine however, we shut this part off in us. We lacked taking action. Lets put it this way, does cat call videos inspire men to take action? Does feminism? Does "you can't say or do that" inspire man to take action? There is so much psychological warfare going on. Its embedded in everything. Its a form of population control. Keep society orderly. As I got older, I realize how things are set so that people do need succeed. Tyler made a video on poison drops. It accurate describes what is being done to the male and female dynamic.
Nullified by the "equality" rant we have in society. It would suggest that everyone is of the same value, quality, talent, and that opportunity is readily available to everyone. This is not the case. Sexodus is a example of men that are so far gone from the equation, they have upped and left. Women they would normally be able to acquire are dating up. Women above and below average are using the passive dating role but, technology has provided a means of access to a audience they never would have had before. This also plays into that old argument that 10% of men are banging 90% of women (or something similar).
Versalis has a point. There is something to sexodous. Taking your ball as a man and going home is fucking stupid. These men typically hate women for years of rejection and social and physical intimate isolation.

This is the issue with man and the lack of evolution. PU could be viewed as a form of men evolving but, very few are good at it in the first place. Men are trading resources to acquire women. Men are handicapped having been taught to buy women with money, pay for dinners, buy her diamonds, get her free drinks, wait for sex. Again, with more of the inconsistencies.


Quite frankly, I would essentially like to see harmony amongst the sexes, and a solution to repolarize the sexes.

MGTOW and Feminism nor sexodous offers a solution. They point the finger at problems. I want solutions. I am working on a solution of my own. I am not there yet. The negativity really sucks guys. It is not what I wanted.

I thought by now I would have settled down. If I had, I likely would be divorced or in ruins. Its not that time yet. Maybe one day. I am still working away on my journey. I wish you guys all luck on yours.

If the negativity is such an issue, perhaps you should stop being so negative.

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And yet, you are responding to an article on men who are checking out of society. MGTOW are a group of men boycotting marriages. I think avoiding women is ridiculous as I am doing PU. I still do not believe it is the most effective solution and system but, its better then the social narrative to just wait, one day... !

This is ignorance as I pointed in another argument. There are tons of men fighting laws, unjust court systems, and getting nowhere fast. There are other MGTOW guys who apparently do fwb and avoid exclusivity all together. Others have relations and avoid marriage.

There is also, women against feminism likely fueled behind wanting free dinners, drinks, and freebies. If there is a red pill movement, men awakening, there must be women who are waking up to the bullshit; red pill women.

You are correct in that, male feminists are worst then female feminists, white knights and manginas who perpetuate things ever more. Males marrying whores and sluts. A lot of men are not making it better. Even approaching women, many white knight phaggots will get up in arms, say its their gf and be willing to fight cause someone looked at their beloved cherish.

Where did I ever say this? I keep telling you you are arguing with people in your head or something.

This all began in another thread. I do PU. I pull. This seems to anger you. Upon logging out, delete your browser history in case your gf finds this site. Assuming she does in fact exist.

You mad?

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I lol'd.

Of all the crap you said, that's the worst.

Honestly, the only path forward I see out of this mess of our current culture is for women to be empowered to accept, and even revel in their sexuality. Women aren't sluts, and only whores are whores. Furthermore, there's nothing wrong with being a whore if a woman chooses to do it because she enjoys the job.

The moment women can feel free to be sexual, they can stop trying to live up to double standards and sleep with who they want. This includes approaching men they are attracted to, as well as getting rid of things like ASD.

Stop using that sort of language. We'll all be better off for it.

I've already challenged Joe on the other thread to prove who pulls more and better. Clear rules, loser gets banned. Dude talks too much shit.

This is more feminist brain washing.. "you can't say this." Tyler's Eric Cartman voices is all I hear every time people say that.

pros·ti·tute


/ˈprästəˌt(y)o͞ot/


noun

noun: prostitute; plural noun: prostitutes



1.


a person, typically a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Earlier in this or another thread, I brought up KK, and the behavior was argued or even defended. The truth is that, a woman who cashes in on sex for payment is a prostitute. Men are still lining up and marrying these kinds of characters.


Going back to the topic of discussion, that sexudos, its men who are below average checking out of society because of the status quo. As its been established, even prostitutes are getting married, and having children with manginas. Women are by far the better at shaming sluts.


I mentioned several pulls and fooling around with different women. I am not marrying the gangbang woman mentioned in a previous thread.


Interestingly, Julien is not practicing being a "nice guy." He pulls. the man who went on a rant about shattering female psychology and self esteem was getting a woman naked. "Can't say that" is the cries of the chronic masturbate(r).

I stopped reading quite a while ago

I usually don't get into extended arguments. If we aren't starting to get where the other person is coming from within a few posts, it's probably never going to happen.

But I learned that lesson very slowly with about 1,500 posts on a political forum, like 8 years ago. Actually ruined me on forums until this one

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Good call.

With regards to Sexodus, more importantly, the lack of connectivity amongst the sexes, what do you suggest is the best way to bridge the gap to improve the male female dynamic?


Being a nice person or not using words like whore, slut, bitch, etc. while misogynistic has little or no bearing in a man's ability to close. In terms of longevity, I think everyone is at a loss for what is going on there, and making things work. The Julien Blanc scenario is an example of behavior that seems to attract and pull despite the popularity of the actions in question. Also, the gangbang scenario I brought up about a woman where another man went on a rant about being an asshole and shattering a woman's self esteem proved just that as she proceeded to get naked.

PU again does not teach that sort of fire power. The most impressive aspect was that, she went on a rant about guys having no game today, and this man started dropping psychological nukes. Turns out, the man had a long term gf, and refused to cheat. He just pushed it as far as he could towards knowing sex was available before blowing her off. I plan to wing with him in the future. He does not know about PU but, he definitely has some damn good game.

In respect to men going their own way and checking out of society, to me, it seems like a man is taking his ball and going home. I think nothing comes easy in this life. Nothing worth while. It sort of goes against the notion in society with tv shows like the Kardashians or the Desperate House wives. Then again, there are a sub culture of women amongst a new age philosophy, stuff like Eckhart Tolle or Dan Millman. Many cafes providing alternative foods, GMO free, no preservatives, pushing holistic nutrition, yoga, and a variety of other things. I find it intriguing and I have met some interesting women in this sort of environment. I suppose if some sort of "red pill" woman were to exist, they would come out of that type of environment. I also enjoy a lot of day game but, I still pursue night clubs and bars. Needless to say, clearly, the woman who wanted the gangbang was from a local bar.

I don't know. To me, the problem is mostly a reflection of self. IE, I suck, and my prospects suck.
So what you're really asking, is how do we improve the character of the average person.

That's a mighty challenging question. And one that is well above my pay grade.
I have no idea how to instill common sense, and ignite a desire to accomplish things and grow as a person.

Most people are drawn to security and habit. They don't like to leave their comfort zone and if they're not happy right now, they're going to have to. How do you inspire courage in the masses? I don't know.

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