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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:53 pm 
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After reading books like The Art Of Seduction I've realized how important image is and fantasy. I'm a serious musician and I want to apply PUA to my band. Example, I want us to be known for an image, a look and a name that makes us larger than life. I just can't figure out the recipe.

I'm great with music, I just hit a mental brick wall sometimes. I came up with a great place we can do photoshoots and we made a cover for an album. But I need a name that ATTRACTS everyone and a look.

How can I use seduction for my band. To create personalities, a look and etc that makes us appeal to the masses as rock giants.

Lets start off with a name, what should I call us? Also if your in the Nyc area you can stop by and see us.

Our Album: http://i.imgur.com/4D7yCmC.jpg
This is where our band is doing a photoshoot: http://i.imgur.com/IAmBKK6.png
(What poses should we be doing?)
Our music: www.reverbnation.com/theuprisingofficial
We need a new name, something like radiohead, indie with a play on words that intellectuals can appreciate.
U2 is a good example.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:01 pm 
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i think you might want to use NLP ratter then seduction.
seduction is sort of manipulation its a game.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:20 pm 
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I won't advise you on image as that's not really my thing, but PUA has influenced my lyric writing.

I listened to some of your songs and they sound good, but no lyrics particularly jumped out at me. Just as you want to be the exception to the rule when approaching women, you want to be the exception to the rule when writing music. Don't just say the same safe generic stuff that everyone goes for.

Whatever your music taste is, you should listen to an album called "In Search of..." by N.E.R.D (you'll know the lead singer as Pharrell Williams, who's pretty big now). This album is a masterclass of musical game. Not only is the vibe and a lot of the lyrics overtly sexual, but it's brilliant in its use of mixed signals.

Sometimes he'll be saying things like:

"Kiss on me baby
Lick on me baby
But you can't own me baby
Cause I'm the shit"

And other times he'll say stuff like:

"I think I've loved you since our high school
But you only wanted friends of mine
So when they replied "Her? she's cool"
Only then you gave our friendship time"

He has a song called Brain, the chorus goes:

"Do your really even love me
If you do there is no pain
Do I really even love you
Or do I really love your brain
I just love your brains"

What's anyone meant to make of that? And I mean that in a good way. And at the end of the song he says "I've got an idea, let's fuck". Throughout the album he plays brilliantly with opposing conventional ideas of love and wild, outlandish and even misogynistic lyrics. He has a song called "Provider" where he talks about having to go out and leave the woman behind, but talking about he's only doing it because he loves her.

Game has influenced my lyric writing in a similar way, in that I am now very open in my lyrics about emotional experiences at times, more than I would have been, but am also more cocky and arrogant at other times, increasing the emotional spectrum.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:56 pm 
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I won't advise you on image as that's not really my thing, but PUA has influenced my lyric writing.

I listened to some of your songs and they sound good, but no lyrics particularly jumped out at me. Just as you want to be the exception to the rule when approaching women, you want to be the exception to the rule when writing music. Don't just say the same safe generic stuff that everyone goes for.

Whatever your music taste is, you should listen to an album called "In Search of..." by N.E.R.D (you'll know the lead singer as Pharrell Williams, who's pretty big now). This album is a masterclass of musical game. Not only is the vibe and a lot of the lyrics overtly sexual, but it's brilliant in its use of mixed signals.

Sometimes he'll be saying things like:

"Kiss on me baby
Lick on me baby
But you can't own me baby
Cause I'm the shit"

And other times he'll say stuff like:

"I think I've loved you since our high school
But you only wanted friends of mine
So when they replied "Her? she's cool"
Only then you gave our friendship time"

He has a song called Brain, the chorus goes:

"Do your really even love me
If you do there is no pain
Do I really even love you
Or do I really love your brain
I just love your brains"

What's anyone meant to make of that? And I mean that in a good way. And at the end of the song he says "I've got an idea, let's fuck". Throughout the album he plays brilliantly with opposing conventional ideas of love and wild, outlandish and even misogynistic lyrics. He has a song called "Provider" where he talks about having to go out and leave the woman behind, but talking about he's only doing it because he loves her.

Game has influenced my lyric writing in a similar way, in that I am now very open in my lyrics about emotional experiences at times, more than I would have been, but am also more cocky and arrogant at other times, increasing the emotional spectrum.
Interesting stuff, I enjoyed how you broke it down into a science. For lyrics I usually use play on words or things that are close to me, I sort of got that down, although my main mission with lyrics is self-expression I avoid relationships. My problem is creating a Band name and image.

Example: AC/DC they hv a tremendous image. They're known as tough brawlers that like to party and just like old school rock. Their album covers are congruent. I believe YOUR image MIRRORS the audience. Which is why Angus' school boy suit attracted young guitar fans and even woman.

Led Zeppelin: is an extremely glorified band, I believe Peter green made it so all of their poses and art work glorifies the band. Page always has huge Alpha poses.

The Doors: They're known as a group of intellectuals yet that have wild/crazy antics.
Bruce Springsteen: and average American guy with a guitar
*Radiohead: a group of European intellectuals that are weird and alienated from society. So they attract hipsters lol


I need to portray a look and image to my band that stands out and that mass ppl can relate too.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:25 pm 
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my main mission with lyrics is self-expression I avoid relationships.
The trouble with that is that women are your target audience. I heard it said that it's female fans that make a band, although I forget where. This is not just because women will take you to their heart based on sentimental reasons, but also because they will drag along guys who are trying to fuck them to your shows ;)

As for your image, well you might need to answer your own question. Who do you see yourself as? What are you currently expressing in your music and how can you build on that?

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I remembered this thread while reading a song from the Stone Roses, it jumped out at me when I heard "I couldn't stand another second in your company".


Down, down, you bring me down
I hear you knocking down my door
And I can't sleep at night.
Your face it has no place
No room for you inside my house
I need to be alone.

Don't waste your words I don't need anything from you,
I don't care where you've been or what you plan to do.

Turn, turn, I wish you'd learn
There's a time and place for everything
I've got to get it through.
Cut loose 'cause you're no use
I couldn't stand another
Second in your company.

Don't waste your words I don't need anything from you,
I don't care where you've been or what you plan to do.

Stone me why can't you see
You're a no one nowhere washed up baby
Who'd look better dead.
Your tongue is far too long
I don't like the way it sucks and
Slurs upon my every word.

Don't waste your words I don't need anything from you,
I don't care where you've been or what you plan to do.

I am the resurrection and I am the life,
I couldn't ever bring myself to hate you as I'd like.

I am the resurrection and I am the life,
I couldn't ever bring myself to hate you as I'd like."

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