So it has been a while since I have been around a PUA site but have recently began practicing again. My most recent issue is with an HB9 who I am working on a project with. I have built attraction and noticed a great amount of positive body language as the last two days have gone by. My kino has been fine but it has been a struggle getting her to a higher attraction phase or establishing a date. She is a semi church girl but said she is beginning to 'try new things" so I am not sure what the next step for me is. Our group ended up at a bar today and she was giving me some ioi's however she ended up at a different table and by that time I had to leave. How can I build attraction or isolate her. Do I work on her when our group is together or should I try the phone call and set up a day2? There has already been a minor implication for a date and I have used the marriage/divorce bit a few times as well as a few other minor things.
All and any advice is appreciated- like i said, most of the principles in PUA are no longer with me.

You’ve done a lot of the work already man.

The combo of attraction, IOIs and solid kino will get you most of the way there. The “struggle” is probably that she isn’t recirpocating as much as you’d like. Establishing a date is as easy as asking her…on a date. What’s stopping you from taking the conversation in that direction?

And somebody wanting to “try new things” is a huge IOI. Look at it this way, if YOU were a church boy and were asked by a heavy set woman of color how you feel about going outside the reservation a little bit, you would probably say a hail mary and reaffirm your dedication to christ. What if a perky blonde asked you? You would allude to the fact that “times are changing” and “I’m interested in the world and what it has to offer.” Why? Because theres attraction and you are qualifying yourself so that she sees you in a way that you think is favorable. This is most likely what is happening to you.

Did you ask “try to new things huh? Like what?” Because you should have. Talk about some healthy sexual tension right there.

Do you guys have any inside jokes or funny stories you guys share? Do you text? Do you have any means of regular communication?

Working her in a group or not is all about the vibe. Are you with friends that can distract HER friends? Is she friendly enough to isolate a bit with you or does she generally stick to her group? Does she shoot you glances or smile when you are across the room?

I don’t see anything wrong in calling her up to hang out. If your instincts are correct in that shes attracted in you, then this shouldn’t be that difficult. It looks like you are getting in your own head too deeply and are abandoning the basics: be confident and ask her out. Tell her you love rock climbing or tasting wine or knitting linen…whatever it is, pick something you are good at and have a passion for and these dates work themselves out.

Good luck man.

Yes we have our own handshake that builds kino more and more, hugs, arm behind the back etc. We touch a bit when we can.
Other people in our group tend to distract her from our conversations but I have had a few moments alone with her when I built attraction.
You are likely right, I must be looking to into it. I will be seeing her with the normal group tomorrow, I avoid text at all cost so I am just going to get the date set up tomorrow and post back here.
Any good games to play in your opinion?

What do you mean by games?

We all out-think ourselves because its never supposed to be easy. And it rarely is. But sometimes, getting to AT LEAST a date is super easy.

Let us know how it goes man.

I plan on taking her to a Hookah/Sheesha bar. relaxing and personal

During the date- I have heard of the penis game and all that but I was looking for something along the lines but different!

Great call on the sheesha/hookah. I use that as a date venue all the time. Like sharing a cigarette, sheesha presents the opportunity to "share" something. This makes everything more intimate, as you are very well aware.

I wouldn't mess around with the games too much, it tends to feel a bit too structured. Girls do a lot of reading, and a lot of that reading has to do with guys--and it inevitably leads to "The Game" or PUA. Assume that the girl is waiting for SOME of your moves.

I think it would be more interesting to go heavy on the kino while having a good conversation...meaning, a lot more listening on your end and supplementing that with witty/insightful comments. Once the smoke starts going and a few drinks, you won't need any games to build rapport.

One thing I do though, and not in too game-y of a way, is talk about a psyche experiment I read about that goes like this: What are the 3 traits you look for in a man? (have her say 3 things related to what she looks for in a man: smart, huge dong, big jaw, whatever) Now ask her what her 4th trait would be ("Ok now one more trait...") Turns out, that 4th trait is the single biggest aspect a woman takes notice of. Mine for example was "nice teeth." Sounds really superficial but in the end, if i didnt dig her grill, i wasnt trying to hook up with her anyways.

Either way, this "experiment" whether true or not gives you a pretty good idea of what kind of person she is. It also incites a lot of conversation because you could tease her on her trait choices all day. Plus, this accelerates the creation of a sexual frame of mind because now she has no choice but to apply you to all her answers. Its a psyche game that lets you in on their psyche...because bitches love psyche games and applying themselves to it. She will inevitably ask you about yours. You can either go with it and play the game or you can say, "I've already taken it." She asks, "what was your 4th answer?" You: "I can't tell you"

And boom you got her all flustered and wanting to know. Take this in any direction you want but remember to stay on the kino and playful teasing.

What do you think?