Alright, quick story and then I'll get into what I'm talking about. I usually don't post in the relationship section but this shit is pretty interesting.

So last night was supposed to be a "date night" with my girlfriend. She lives with me so we see each other quite a bit but never really go out on "dates." Just not my thing... Anyways, I was finally home on a Sunday night. I told her that we would go to dinner for a "date."

We go out to eat around 7:30 and have a nice dinner (she paid for those of you that are curious) and make it back home by 9:30. Getting into details, I have an entertainment center that I am working on fixing up. After dinner, I told an old buddy of mine to come by to help me sand it down so I can stain it. We went and picked up a 12 pack and were just going to hang out, sanding away at this big ass piece of furniture and having a few good laughs in the process. My girlfriend usually goes to sleep pretty early and winds up passing out on the couch around 11... which, hey... fine with me. I invite another buddy of mine over to hang out and give me a hand with the entertainment center.

She wakes up around 1 saying "Well, I didn't know that tonight was going to be guys night. I'm just going to go to bed." and the tone in her voice was so sharp and pissy... She NEVER talks to me like that. I could tell I pissed her off. I walked her into the bedroom and said "goodnight" and went to kiss her and she just pushed me off. She said "Please don't touch me right now. I'm really upset with you and I'm going to say something I'm going to regret." I acted like I didn't do anything wrong. Instead of doing what most guys do, getting all defensive... just stayed completely un phased by her saying that to me. I said "Baby come here! Why are you upset?" she gave me some whole thing about how she just saw the night going differently and blah blah blah. I flipped it around saying that she's stressed out because of her job and the drive is too far and it's making her bitter. Yes, I can pretty much talk my way out of anything. She started saying "I know. And I feel like its affecting our relationship too and I don't want to lose you. So please... just let me go to sleep."

I started kissing her neck and kissing her face and said "Okay, now go to sleep with a smile on your face!" She kinda huffed and puffed, still pissed off a bit, but laid down in bed. I say "Good night" one more time and go back out to hang out with my friends and get work done. About 15 minutes later, I get a text message from her saying "Baby, can you please come to the bedroom?" I wait a few minutes and walk in there and say "What's up buttface?" (I always call her that. Don't ask.) and she said "Baby, I'm really sorry for talking to you like that. You're not mad at me, are you?"

**SLAM ON THE BRAKES!*** SKKKKKRRRRRRRRTTTT****

Yes. She asked me if I was mad at HER. Mind you, I blew off our "date night" for the most part and wound up drinking beers and hanging out with my buddies, leaving her falling asleep on the couch. Yet she winds up apologizing to ME. I tell her (in a joking but serious tone) "It's okay, just DON'T let it happen again." Grabbed her face, and gave her another kiss and said "Now go to sleep woman!"

Now, about an hour or two goes by and my buddies wind up leaving and as they do, she stumbles out of the bedroom wearing nothing but a thong and one of my tshirts, asking if I want to smoke a cigarette with her. I say sure and we step outside go smoke.

Okay, so my theory is when a girl is all pissed off and frustrated... She needs to get fucked. She wants some dick. So, as we are smoking outside, we start getting into this heavy, passionate make out. She's still half asleep... We go back inside and she is to the point where she knows when I have "that look in my eyes" whats about to go down. I close the blinds behind us, point to the bedroom saying "get in there!" and we start ripping each others clothes off. Have the best sex we've had in probably 2 months.

Here's my point to this post... Most relationships are BORING. No drama or anything out of the ordinary. What I'm saying is throw a wrench in there every so often. Do something that you know is probably going to piss her off a bit. Learn how to talk your way out of the situation. Emotions are emotions. Whether they are good or bad, you have to make the girl feel something. The reason most women wind up cheating on their boyfriends is the boyfriend doesn't make her feel anything but good all of the time. It gets old. It gets boring. She needs that roller coaster still.

I remember the first relationship I got into when I first started with pick up... I turned into the same little bitch that I was before. Guys, keep in mind that when a girl becomes attracted to you, she's attracted to the guy she originally met. Don't turn into some little chode who does everything she says. Don't be afraid to break the rules a bit... It will remind her why she's attracted to you in the first place and get her turned on like she was when she first met you.

-Majik

Good pot Sir. The emotional roller coaster is like "CRACK" to Women of ALL ages!

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I just read the title , and I agree with it.

But this is a very sharp double edged blade.

You really need to know what the fuck you're doing to pull this off. There's no room for hesitation.

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Agreed.

Like I said, I know how to talk my way out of pretty much anything. You've really gotta be a smooth talker in order to get away with something extreme. I've always said that being able to talk is a gift that will get you super far in life.

And lots of pussy!

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Is this similar to a shit-test?

I agree.

Be a right out bastard to her and offer no apology or empathy towards her. Let her just roll off as if she's the most unimportant person or object in the room. Later on be sincere and apologise. She'll be a lot more open to talking to you and want to be around you. Of course this only works in social environments between friends and friends of friends.

Youre about 90% on here...

I agree that you need the drama. I agree that they need the passion after... that whole fuck the crazy out of them. You're also speaking of a long standing argument on the board, whether to game after the relationship starts or just in the pick up phase.

In my relationship I do everything you described with the same success. the only difference is that I believe in being a gentleman. I dont seek out the fights/disagreements. Women love drama...eventually it will find you. I wait until they cant take it, freak out of something small because she cant wait long enough for something big, and handle just as you described... make them cum hard and then return to normal.

Its a beautiful cycle once mastered and why I love the PUA style in all aspects of relating to woman not just picking them up!

Good stuff brother.

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Good thread. Scientifically grounded. Empirically sound.

Yes. Many of us can relate with this. Stress out the woman and she gets horny. It's primal instinct.

To help support your theory, here's a nonverbal stress-out-the-female technique from man's closest relative species:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDzUgoQPpBI[/youtube]

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I gotta disagree with this post completely.

IF you're in a relationship with a drama queen, or a freak by Wolf's definition, then I can concede this can have a positive effect with regards to keeping a woman invested. My preference is to remove these women from my life if at all possible. Why? Because I've actually found that there are women, rare sometimes, that are good girls. These women are mature, have been with dickheads, seem to have had kids, and ultimately have just reached a point in their life that they will tolerate a certain level of drama if they feel the relationship is worth it, but they won't go out of their way to seek it.

In other words, I think this works for you and your girl because she's a typical drama queen. My girl, and the type I am now attracted to, is not. She doesn't need drama, she doesn't want drama, and the fucking is best when there is little to none present.

How would the situation you describe unfold? Well, it has, and it goes like this. I blow off a date or an arrangement, and she files a complaint. I acknowledge that the complaint is valid, and make up for it with a different date, and I fuck the shit out of her to the tune of 3 or 4 orgasms and we call it even. If roles are reversed and I feel disrespected, I tell her why, she acknowledges, and she makes it up to me with a different date and she fucks the shit out of me and I get to get off once or twice and she may only cum once or twice.

In any event, I don't have to act like a douchebag, neither does she, neither of us has to worry about creating any extra drama, and we both know the other will acknowledge when a wrong has occurred, and if we don't agree on that, it's likely one of us is being a selfish, snotty little bitch. I like very much having a woman I trust will make me realize that, and I know for a fact she feels the same way. The relationship helps both of us be better than we might be without it, which is what keeps us both invested.

In summary, rather than stooping to a level at which you play by a drama queen's rules and give her a level she needs to be invested, I'd opt to remove that from the relationship. If acting like this is a condition of a relationship, you can have it and I won't fight you for her.

Ehhh....im with OP.

Crazy girls are just crazy. They are passionate with all their emotional swings, and the switch flips pretty easily.

I keep a very even keel, and its really hilarious to me when they go from throwing shoes to giving head in less than a half hour. When they see that you stand strong and refuse to admit any wrong behavior instead of getting on ur knees to beg forgiveness, they can't help but get on theirs and beg for a load.

Cannot agree with this thread more!

Not quite the same situation, but my girl started saying she was going to see some guy next weekend because he was lonely. I went along with it and told her to "have fun" but then cut conversation for a couple of hours because I had stuff to do. When I came back I had a long list of messages from her.

She started off by getting increasingly pissed that I hadn't replied, then she apologised for "being a bitch", I laughed. I assumed she was just kidding around with the going to see another guy thing, definitely didn't take it seriously but she seemed to.