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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:21 am 
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Interesting scenario right, you are at a bar/club meet some nice girls get chatting.
Should you buy her a drink right then and there? or wait until later on.
It seems some girls expect it, but to me I wont buy her a drink until I know her more so maybe 2-3 hours later.
I don't want to feel as though I am bowing down to her by getting her a drink, come across as someone who is interested in her and want to know more about her first rather than it just seeming like you want to get her drunk etc.
Plus its happened to me before, I have brought the girl a drink within the first 20 minutes of knowing her and she goes away to see her friends for awhile and doesn't return basically using you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:57 am 
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Dont buy her a drink.
At least not if you just know her for 10 minutes. Of course they expect you to do so but thats because they know every other guy will. Dont do what every other guy does. Did she do anything for you? Does she deserve a drink? No. Protect yourself from being used. If she likes you she will stay and talk to you anyways. If she leaves, just because you didnt by her a drink you already how interested she was in you ;-)
Just my opinion. I would do it. Do it like you said: After knowing her and talking to her for a few hours its okay to get her a drink i guess.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:32 pm 
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Dont buy her a drink.
At least not if you just know her for 10 minutes. Of course they expect you to do so but thats because they know every other guy will. Dont do what every other guy does. Did she do anything for you? Does she deserve a drink? No. Protect yourself from being used. If she likes you she will stay and talk to you anyways. If she leaves, just because you didnt by her a drink you already how interested she was in you ;-)
Just my opinion. I would do it. Do it like you said: After knowing her and talking to her for a few hours its okay to get her a drink i guess.
Exactly I never buy girls drinks


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:54 pm 
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I don't think it matters that much. Sometimes you will get used, but other times it's a nice easy way to get a girl away from her group etc. And, are you that poor that you care if you get used for $13? Who cares.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:01 pm 
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Don't ever buy a girl a drink.

When you go out with your friends that you have known for 5, 6, 10, however many years... do you buy them drinks? No. Fuck no you don't.

When you buy a girl a drink, it makes her feel as if you are trying to get something back from her (sex... for example) and it will make her feel like a prostitute. Don't buy a girl a drink.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:07 pm 
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I don't think it matters that much. Sometimes you will get used, but other times it's a nice easy way to get a girl away from her group etc. And, are you that poor that you care if you get used for $13? Who cares.
Bad advice. If you approach as much as I do (and I imagine many others who post on here) that $13 x 10 approaches in a club and you've spent $130 already and no sex! You could get a hooker for less than that.

My rule of thumb is don't buy until she has opened her legs for you. If you absolutely have to buy, make her earn it by saying "my drinks aren't free" and make her comply to your request and reward her obedience. Still best avoided until after sex, saves money in the long run.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:30 pm 
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Don't ever buy a girl a drink.

When you go out with your friends that you have known for 5, 6, 10, however many years... do you buy them drinks? No. Fuck no you don't.

When you buy a girl a drink, it makes her feel as if you are trying to get something back from her (sex... for example) and it will make her feel like a prostitute. Don't buy a girl a drink.
Really, you don't get a round when you go out with friends? And your friends don't ever buy you rounds? Say drinks cost literally 1 cent, would you feel the same way? Serious question.

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Don't ever buy a girl a drink.

When you go out with your friends that you have known for 5, 6, 10, however many years... do you buy them drinks? No. Fuck no you don't.

When you buy a girl a drink, it makes her feel as if you are trying to get something back from her (sex... for example) and it will make her feel like a prostitute. Don't buy a girl a drink.
Really, you don't get a round when you go out with friends? And your friends don't ever buy you rounds? Say drinks cost literally 1 cent, would you feel the same way? Serious question.
If you are buying rounds for each other... different story. personally, I don't drink. but if you are gonna do "round for round," make her buy the first one. Don't be someones bitch.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:31 am 
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With night game I wouldn't think it would be considered a must because for one thing if you are finding good ground with her after chatting to her/dancing etc for say 2-3 hours, then there is a guarantee you will get her home or get a number/kiss close.
Not to mention the fact that most girls that are out at night are actually looking so you have the upper hand, but if I got her a drink and she buggered off then I wouldn't get the next girl a drink the same.

If its during the day and you get an instant date, I think its pretty much your obligation to pay for her drink because you have pretty much offered to take her for coffee.

With the mates getting drinks thing, ive always done that as it ends up being a much cheaper night for everyone when its so expensive now days.
Say theres 5 of you ill buy one round and wont have to for the rest until its my turn again, and we then split the taxi fare too if we don't end up going home with any girls for the night.


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As Majik said, don't buy her a drink, ever. Not even after 2-3 hours. But my friends and I buy rounds for the table, and I'll randomly buy some drinks for my friends. Better to be nice and generous with guys than with girls. Guys are used getting socially challenged, bullied, etc. So if I genuinely like a guy (no homo), I'll randomly pay him a beer.

As for TheFury, I suspect he's incredibly good looking and fit because he runs a game that's quite different than conventional PUA wisdom yet he still has success apparently. Picture Ryan Gosling for a second... Imagine him doing all kinds of stupid crap... Say for instance he goes up to a random girl and he's like, "hey girl, nice tits... Wanna make out?" I don't think it would work in every case, but I'm sure in at least 40% of cases it would work. Now picture the average guy here trying to pull that off. Probably a 0.5% chance of it working. So yes, I'm saying Ryan Gosling is 80x better than us, and yes, I'm saying TheFury likely has the looks and body definition to have more success using unconventional game.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:20 am 
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Guys this topic is handled similarly here as negging. You go overboard with not buying a drink for a girl. First of all if she expect me to buy her a drink then there is no way I'm going to.
If I'm genuinely interested and there is some rapport between us and I want to buy myself a drink then I'll probably get her one with the comment that she gets the next round. It's common sense.
I'm just saying you need to know when it's ok to buy a drink and when is it that the girl is trying to use you.


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Even if she's not using you, DON'T BUY HER ONE.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:14 am 
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If its during the day and you get an instant date, I think its pretty much your obligation to pay for her drink because you have pretty much offered to take her for coffee.
This. It's situational.

Sometimes you'll have to buy her a drink and maybe some cookies to isolate her and then bounce her to the f-place. But if you frame buying her a drink as a bribe, things can go wrong very fast.

Spending should also be within the comfort level of your target's demographics. Say, you bounce her to the church, grocery, and then your place, getting her a $10 wine when she's not used to that gives off the wrong signal and fucks up your f-close.

When a girl qualifies herself to you saying she's a great cook and would want to cook you a meal, you either get a $1 soda or a $10 wine depending on the social status of the girl when you're bouncing her over a few places then to your place to cook you a meal. Spend beyond what she's used to, then you sarge yourself out of the f-close. Spend lower than what she's used to, then you're also fucked up.

But when a girl demands, "Buy me a drink." That's a shit test. It's game on. Buying her a drink in this case, kills of any small measure of sexual attraction really fast.

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As Majik said, don't buy her a drink, ever. Not even after 2-3 hours. But my friends and I buy rounds for the table, and I'll randomly buy some drinks for my friends. Better to be nice and generous with guys than with girls. Guys are used getting socially challenged, bullied, etc. So if I genuinely like a guy (no homo), I'll randomly pay him a beer.

As for TheFury, I suspect he's incredibly good looking and fit because he runs a game that's quite different than conventional PUA wisdom yet he still has success apparently. Picture Ryan Gosling for a second... Imagine him doing all kinds of stupid crap... Say for instance he goes up to a random girl and he's like, "hey girl, nice tits... Wanna make out?" I don't think it would work in every case, but I'm sure in at least 40% of cases it would work. Now picture the average guy here trying to pull that off. Probably a 0.5% chance of it working. So yes, I'm saying Ryan Gosling is 80x better than us, and yes, I'm saying TheFury likely has the looks and body definition to have more success using unconventional game.
Well thanks for the compliments but it isn't entirely true. I am not a bad looking guy but not much above average, and though I try to stay in shape I am 5'8" on a good day and am losing my hair.

My only point here is that the majority of the forum acts like you can never buy a girl a drink ever and that this is a hard and fast rule. I am just saying that this is not necessarily always the case nor is it viewed as a hard and fast rule by all the leading PUAs (I think some of the leading PUA's do actually say it's ok to buy drinks). I know in my experience, I have been EXTREMELY unsuccessful not paying for dates, and when it comes to drinks, I've honestly found it hasn't made much of a difference if I paid or I didn't. A lot of women are successful and have money, in which case who pays for the drink is irrelevant. I've found making an issue out of a $12 drink can really back fire depending on who you are gaming. Maybe my frame is not as strong as you guys in here, but it's really hard to come off as a successful young professional in the city and then even suggest implicitly that who pays for a drink matters if I get shit tested on it. Again, this could be specific to me and my overall game, but I just wouldn't completely discount the idea that a woman might be turned off if you make an issue out of the cost of a drink without being a gold digger.

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As Majik said, don't buy her a drink, ever. Not even after 2-3 hours. But my friends and I buy rounds for the table, and I'll randomly buy some drinks for my friends. Better to be nice and generous with guys than with girls. Guys are used getting socially challenged, bullied, etc. So if I genuinely like a guy (no homo), I'll randomly pay him a beer.

As for TheFury, I suspect he's incredibly good looking and fit because he runs a game that's quite different than conventional PUA wisdom yet he still has success apparently. Picture Ryan Gosling for a second... Imagine him doing all kinds of stupid crap... Say for instance he goes up to a random girl and he's like, "hey girl, nice tits... Wanna make out?" I don't think it would work in every case, but I'm sure in at least 40% of cases it would work. Now picture the average guy here trying to pull that off. Probably a 0.5% chance of it working. So yes, I'm saying Ryan Gosling is 80x better than us, and yes, I'm saying TheFury likely has the looks and body definition to have more success using unconventional game.
Well thanks for the compliments but it isn't entirely true. I am not a bad looking guy but not much above average, and though I try to stay in shape I am 5'8" on a good day and am losing my hair.

My only point here is that the majority of the forum acts like you can never buy a girl a drink ever and that this is a hard and fast rule. I am just saying that this is not necessarily always the case nor is it viewed as a hard and fast rule by all the leading PUAs (I think some of the leading PUA's do actually say it's ok to buy drinks). I know in my experience, I have been EXTREMELY unsuccessful not paying for dates, and when it comes to drinks, I've honestly found it hasn't made much of a difference if I paid or I didn't. A lot of women are successful and have money, in which case who pays for the drink is irrelevant. I've found making an issue out of a $12 drink can really back fire depending on who you are gaming. Maybe my frame is not as strong as you guys in here, but it's really hard to come off as a successful young professional in the city and then even suggest implicitly that who pays for a drink matters if I get shit tested on it. Again, this could be specific to me and my overall game, but I just wouldn't completely discount the idea that a woman might be turned off if you make an issue out of the cost of a drink without being a gold digger.
This is what I call common sense. Agree with these, same experiences here. Guys go overboard with not buying a drink and end up looking like a cheap ass.


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