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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:18 pm 
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Hey I've been on POF a while..changed my profile and pics.

I've followed the methods on this website (online game) and I send really witty messages.
I've also tried the darth vader method. Etc.."I would take down that picture" they go "why" then I go with "
" lol I hope you can take a joke, I thought you were adorable , I just had to say hi ".
No reply after that...then I do a follow up message...no reply to that too.

I am getting lots of profile views but hardly any messages back or no reply after their message.

Is there anything wrong with my profile?

I can't help feeling it's possibly because I'm bald.
I can't get any better pictures than that.

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=34464209

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:18 pm 
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I doubt it's cuz your bald. You're a good looking guy and i hear a lot of girls actually dig the bald look (thank God, cuz I'm gonna have to shave it all off in a year or so).

Your first date is pretty funny. I dont want to say much on the profile because I'm currently dealing with the same problem, dont wanna give bad advice....

It's probably your headline. Normally a funny joke, but remember online dating can be a dangerous thing for girls. The first thing they screen you for is if to see you're some kind of rapist or murderer... when they see you're not, they see if you're creepy or boring. Then they see if you're interesting, worth talking to. I'd change the headline to something that isn't associated to abducting women, even if it is a joke.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:56 pm 
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Cheers!

I tried this...

me: I would remove that picture on your profile
her: why?

me:I was just kidding, I hope you can take a joke. I thought you were worth getting to know so I had to say hi
I'm Garry =)

BLOCKED.

3 girls have blocked me because of this?!

It's just as if I have a huge sign across my forehead that says "STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY"

:(


UPDATE : 4th blocked now.
This one was a one who I had a good chat with...then no reply for a few days...I decide to send her a follow up one...BLOCKED.


It's making me feel a bit down and have doubts about myself because they aren't giving me the chance to get to know me.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:46 am 
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Whatever you do, don't get yourself down from online dating. All you're seeing is a tiny tiny tiny selection of girls in your local area. Go to town on a night out and you'll see hundreds more girls, remember not all the single girls are on that site. So in other words try not to put too much of your life effort in to it. Go out. Hang with friends. Do day game. Night game. Don't use POF as a substitute alone. Don't make it the be all and end all :)

As for your profile, I came in to this tread to say online dating is 90% based on pictures and if you have bad ones you'll get nowhere but yours are pretty good.
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There's something very special about you. You are curious about the world around you. You can take a joke and are not easily offended. You believe that sarcasm is a spice of life. You can spell (without using spell check), and are generally happy. You want to see the world and travel, love to kiss, you cuddle like a cat on the sofa, and shag like a tiger in bed. You are thin, athletic, (curvy in the right places is a plus), your eyes are bright and convey the depth of your spirit. You are beautiful inside and out, and you think you can actually keep up with me. The rest is negotiable. (well, you can’t be a blood relative).
I'd maybe revise this or get rid of it. I used to have clauses on mine. what I'm looking for. What the girl must be etc. If anything I found it a hindrance as there's allready enough for woman to judge you on without giving them more excuses not to reply.

As for your messages. Don't use any canned stuff whatsoever. Read their profile and pick up a few things on there that you can also relate to. Keep it short and ask 1-2 questions so they have a reason to respond.
Here's my typical template (this was sent to a girl who mentioned she liked art on her profile.
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Hey what's up :)
I can't say I'm a massive fan of the kind of art they have at the Tate or what the whole Turner Prize is about but other than that I'm a big appreciater of real art ha. Do you ever visit design-milk.com best site ever if you don't!

You seem pretty cool, but what else you got going on for you other than art? :)
I'm devi4nt by the way. Would be cool to hear back if you want to chat x
I know most on here will say that's bullshit but I used to get ZERO results when I tried the Pick up ways or tried to be over sexual/cocky. Now I get 90% success rate with simple messages that show that I've read their profile and have some interest. You can increase the sexual content later in the conversation. Obviously I tailor that message to different girls. I rely heavily on what they have on their profiles. Girls who write 'I don't know what to say here' or 'If I say it all here there won't be anything to talk about' are down right BORING and don't deserve my message. The only opener I have for them is 'hi' and that's about as interesting as the conversation would ever get.

Remember: Lighthearted and fun. I have a rule for texts where I always send a follow up but online is so ruthless I never send a follow up. If she ignores me or stops speaking to me she's found someone else. It's sadly all a numbers game online which is why you should have fun with it.

My eye opener came when I set up a fake profile with some model guys photos and I watched the messages roll in. Fat girls messaging thinking they have a chance. The girls who say 'don't just say hi' on their profile messaging me saying just 'hi'. It's laughable. The girls on there get so many messages they have become conditioned to up their standards ridiculously. If you approached all the girls you messaged on there in real life I'm sure 99% would respond positively. So try not to get too bogged down in it all. It's not you. It's them

Anyway hope that helps somewhat. Good luck man.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:18 am 
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Whatever you do, don't get yourself down from online dating. All you're seeing is a tiny tiny tiny selection of girls in your local area. Go to town on a night out and you'll see hundreds more girls, remember not all the single girls are on that site. So in other words try not to put too much of your life effort in to it. Go out. Hang with friends. Do day game. Night game. Don't use POF as a substitute alone. Don't make it the be all and end all :)

This. Online game is the #1 worst thing to use to gauge your skills with women. It should be used purely to fuck around or as a supplement at best. It's just too fuckin brutal to invest yourself in. Unless you have some awesome photos, you're shredded, or ladykiller profile, it's going to take disproportionately more work to get few results.

A word of advice on your "I would change your pic" opener. Your follow up is a little long and qualifies her too much. When I use it, my response is no longer than "Kidding :) Wanted to say hi". Doesn't always get a response, but it does get some. The shorter your response, the better.

Also what's important to remember is that not all women are the same. Some girls call me a weirdo and block me because of my openers while others of equal or more hotness love them.

Ideally, I wouldn't bother with online game until you get a couple killer photos (adventure/women/friends/cool stuff that you do/etc.) and have an interesting enough lifestyle that even a subpar profile will be fun to read (provided you avoid the common pitfalls of profile writing).

Good luck dude.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:56 am 
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quick analysis of problems with your profile, which I spent 3 minutes on which is more them most chciks will:

Too many self portraits and duck face pictures, knock it off your not a chick. Keep the surfing one and the one with 2 chicks an maybe your dog. Replace the kissy, cheesy duck face pix with you being in a group of cool guys and one with you doing something else cool. Sell them on a lifestyle with your pix, as it is your only selling them on a soft sensitive bald guy with a suspicious lack of friends.

As far as your content go it is also somewhat too gay. some of the sensitive, effervescent, and titillatingly romantic stuff is ok but also focus on your career, aspirations, manly activities, and exciting lifestyle.

As your profile is now it would seem to be effective on attracting a very niche group of chicks, the other 85% are going to get bored and look for someone who seems less romantic and sensitive and more interesting.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:58 am 
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Most of the pertinent stuff has already been said, i'll simply add that your standards on who is allowed to message you are terribly prohibitive. I think it might be working against you. Often, a girl will simply put on her profile that she's only looking for friends to hang out with, but in fact it's easy to get a lay on the date, it all depends on the energy/flirtatiousness of the conversation.

Of course, a true PUA would say that as soon as you have a date, you're golden and you have a lay, no matter what she says she wants. It's not a bad state of mind either.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:09 pm 
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Your forehead looks incredibly large in your first picture, the last 2 look too posy.

Your profile is abit long, be more concise.

Also never use the "I would remove that picture" line, its shit.


When ur messaging I usually start with a pre-loading sentence followed by a question.

e.g. You seem like one of the more stable women on here
Your seem like one of the more unique women on here

Do you prefer M&Ms, Smarties or skittles?
What year of uni are you in?
What kind of music do you listen to?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:27 pm 
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This. Online game is the #1 worst thing to use to gauge your skills with women. It should be used purely to fuck around or as a supplement at best. It's just too fuckin brutal to invest yourself in. Unless you have some awesome photos, you're shredded, or ladykiller profile, it's going to take disproportionately more work to get few results.
I would say the online game wont help with approaching and building initial real-time attraction via body language and ad-hoc verbal game, but is great practice for dating and closing skills. I would disagree with you saying that it is way more work then its worth, you would be right for 90% of normal looking guys who dont have any online game, but since Ive learned some good ways to game online I can assure you its well worth the minimal investment I make to getting results.


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