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I have been working out for more than 20 years, and i am like oprah get big then get ripped back to big(bit overwheight 10-20 pounds), but i finally think i got this stuff right, remember i am over 35 but i still look better than 90% of the guys at the clubs, and in this forum, trust me on that...You do not want to look like a BODYBUILDER, women are not attracted to that shit, other dudes are attracted to that, but not women.

First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...


now that we got out of the way, yes i posted it 3 times is that IMPORTANT i will give you a simple path, remember my name is skills(A skill is the learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time, energy, or both)

here we go:

you will do body for life(super simple method the original) by wade phyllips for 3 months, this will give you motivation because you will see changes IMMEDIATELY, which in turn will keep you motivated, now this are the changes i will make to body for life,

1.- every 3 weeks change the exercises.
2.- after the first month instead of a cheat day, change to half a cheat day
3.-after the second month change to a cheat meal

Then you will do p90X(for 3 months) but follow the body for life nutrition plan or similar since is easier, and TRY NOT TO CHEAT(it may happen but try not to), and if you cheat please don't let it be fast food or pizza...NO ALCOHOL(false confidence you do not need that shit)

then You will do insanity(by beach body) for 2 months, their nutrition plan is simple as well, but i still like the body for life nutrion plan better.

Then you will do p90x/insanity hybrid(for the rest of your life if you want to), i like the hybrid that team ripped has on their website....
http://teamripped.com/


my method is for people that want to get in shape mainly to lose weight gain muscle...

Supplements i really love "super hd" by cellucor is just AWESOME to get ripped

If you are skinny dude: Testosterone busters, and creatine...

With that being said, i have never done it, but most mma dudes i know do crossfit and the look amazing, I believe croosfit may the best existing stuff out there, but i don't do it...


If you do p90x that shit may get boring so the way to get around that is to print the exercises, and in your computer or ipod whatever listen to audiobooks(i use audiable.com), or youtube channnels(i usually put rsd channel or simple pick up etc...) if not is kind of boring that is the way to get around that..

Powerblocks: i workout from home i use this dumbells:http://www.powerblock.com/

the best time to workout is in the morning, that way is your priority, make that a habit, before work, get up 1.5 hours extra early, i rather die than loss a day at the gym(that should be your attitude, say that 10 times everyday)

Out!

P.S. Otis do not pupu my post please...

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First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...

Thank's for posting this Skills, this is one of the largest lifestyle changes that you can make, and it will respond with the best results!

the only supplements I use are protein, and occasionally "Real Deal" pre-workout (google it) The dude in the add is my buddy! the blond hotty is my other buddy's wife! both in their 30s

the link

http://www.thenewrealdeal.com/

I am 52, and because of this I look better physically than most 30 year old men ....trust me I went to the beach yesterday 8)

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With that being said, i have never done it, but most mma dudes i know do crossfit and the look amazing, I believe croosfit may the best existing stuff out there, but i don't do it...
my former schedule ( before accident )

Sprinting 1 Kilometre... 30 pushups... sprint 1 kilometer again... wash rinse repeat untill you have reached 10 KM ( 300 pushups )

my 10 KM used to end at the lake...even in spring or autumn... swim for 60 mins freaking hard.

get out of the water... run back home 4 KM

same afternoon... 2 hours of jiu jitsu... when was going to do boxing i wouldn't do pushups during running ( stiff muscles etc ). i would run after boxing and do my pushups.

did this 5 times every week ( not pushups every day.. i switch muscle groups daily to biceps, squats, abdomen etc ) ....also did some fencing and other stuff in the weekend.

owned everyone during MMA.

i used to model my workouts from special forces... Navy seals, ancient greek warfare etc. i never lifted any weights ( dumbells, barbells etc ) , weights are for pussies who don't want to get fucked up. you need a good diet tho.. lots of anti-oxidants and supplements otherwise you won't regenerate from the intensive workouts.

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I respect your many years of experience in herbalogy but cannot support your workout to anyone, it's pure suicide. Don't try this if you are over 35 years old.
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my former schedule ( before accident )

Sprinting 1 Kilometre... 30 pushups... sprint 1 kilometer again... wash rinse repeat untill you have reached 10 KM ( 300 pushups )
No one can sprint for 1Km. Ask the 100,200,400 meters runners.Perhaps ypu mean fast run/pace.
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my 10 KM used to end at the lake...even in spring or autumn... swim for 60 mins freaking hard.

get out of the water... run back home 4 KM
The swimming leg of Biathelons and Triathelons always starts first for obvious
reasons of fatique and safety,it's quite possiple to drown ( 60 min. swim) after a 10Km. run.
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Afternoon.. 2hours of jiu jitsu... when was going to do boxing i wouldn't do pushups during running ( stiff muscles etc ). i would run after boxing and do my pushups.
You would probably be exhausted doing the run, swim,run back home part.
I believe you are highly motivated to do this.
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did this every week ( not pushups every day.. i switch muscle groups daily to biceps, squats, abdomen etc ) ....also did some fencing and other stuff in the weekend.

owned everyone during MMA.

i used to model my workouts from special forces... Navy seals, ancient greek warfare etc. i never lifted any weights ( dumbells, barbells etc ) , weights are for pussies who don't want to get fucked up. you need a good diet tho.. lots of anti-oxidants and supplements otherwise you won't regenerate from the intensive workouts.
Yes, a good diet is always a must. Is the cause of accident do to your workout?

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I am sorry there are multiple posts,tried to delete them but was unable.Moderator
please do so. Thank you.

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I have been working out for more than 20 years, and i am like oprah get big then get ripped back to big(bit overwheight 10-20 pounds), but i finally think i got this stuff right, remember i am over 35 but i still look better than 90% of the guys at the clubs, and in this forum, trust me on that...You do not want to look like a BODYBUILDER, women are not attracted to that shit, other dudes are attracted to that, but not women.

First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...


now that we got out of the way, yes i posted it 3 times is that IMPORTANT i will give you a simple path, remember my name is skills(A skill is the learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time, energy, or both)

here we go:

you will do body for life(super simple method the original) by wade phyllips for 3 months, this will give you motivation because you will see changes IMMEDIATELY, which in turn will keep you motivated, now this are the changes i will make to body for life,

1.- every 3 weeks change the exercises.
2.- after the first month instead of a cheat day, change to half a cheat day
3.-after the second month change to a cheat meal

Then you will do p90X(for 3 months) but follow the body for life nutrition plan or similar since is easier, and TRY NOT TO CHEAT(it may happen but try not to), and if you cheat please don't let it be fast food or pizza...NO ALCOHOL(false confidence you do not need that shit)

then You will do insanity(by beach body) for 2 months, their nutrition plan is simple as well, but i still like the body for life nutrion plan better.

Then you will do p90x/insanity hybrid(for the rest of your life if you want to), i like the hybrid that team ripped has on their website....
http://teamripped.com/


my method is for people that want to get in shape mainly to lose weight gain muscle...

Supplements i really love "super hd" by cellucor is just AWESOME to get ripped

If you are skinny dude: Testosterone busters, and creatine...

With that being said, i have never done it, but most mma dudes i know do crossfit and the look amazing, I believe croosfit may the best existing stuff out there, but i don't do it...


If you do p90x that shit may get boring so the way to get around that is to print the exercises, and in your computer or ipod whatever listen to audiobooks(i use audiable.com), or youtube channnels(i usually put rsd channel or simple pick up etc...) if not is kind of boring that is the way to get around that..

Powerblocks: i workout from home i use this dumbells:http://www.powerblock.com/

the best time to workout is in the morning, that way is your priority, make that a habit, before work, get up 1.5 hours extra early, i rather die than loss a day at the gym(that should be your attitude, say that 10 times everyday)

Out!

P.S. Otis do not pupu my post please...
Ill agree with the diet aspect. I crack up when people say "you can eat whatever you want as long as you exercise" LOL

If that were true, id have no problem maintaining my weight. Anybody who says "i dont really worry about my diet, I just exercise, is not going to lose weight, but often, they think they are in shape and slim. They arent lol

I know first hand that you can exercise till your joints fall apart, if you dont watch your diet you will stay fat and/or get fatter.

The reason being is exercise isnt that effective at burning calories. If you ever look at a chart of what exercise burins off what calories, you will see even the most intense exercise only burns 500-600 calories per hour. and thats an hour every day, and high intensity.

Now if you eat 2000 calories a day, and you only burn off 500 with this exercise three or four times a week, theres still 3 or 4 days you aint burning shit.

So really most people do casual exercise that maybe burns 300-400 calories per session, which if u really watch what you eat, makes a difference, but if you dont, it makes no difference at all, but is still good for you.

if you cant be faithful to a diet everyday one thing that works is carb rotating. You eat no carbs for 4 or 5 days, and then go off it for 2 or 3, and it works, and it elimijnates alot of problems with low carb diet, mostly, u get to eat normally a few times a week.

Plus you dont lose muscle like you do on low carb all the time.

Give it a shot with exercise.


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no of course.. my comment was directed at skillz : ''MMA'' part...

people who don't do sports should stop making excuses and just work out.
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Yes, a good diet is always a must. Is the cause of accident do to your workout?
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No one can sprint for 1Km. Ask the 100,200,400 meters runners.Perhaps ypu mean fast run/pace.
mm ok maybe not 100 % ( spriniting ) , more like 80 % intensity, it's still fast tho.

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I have been working out for more than 20 years, and i am like oprah get big then get ripped back to big(bit overwheight 10-20 pounds), but i finally think i got this stuff right, remember i am over 35 but i still look better than 90% of the guys at the clubs, and in this forum, trust me on that...You do not want to look like a BODYBUILDER, women are not attracted to that shit, other dudes are attracted to that, but not women.

First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...
First no matter what workout you follow you will not get fit unless the nutrition is in place is 90% nutrition, it takes 2-3 days of working out to recover from a "Cheat meal"...


now that we got out of the way, yes i posted it 3 times is that IMPORTANT i will give you a simple path, remember my name is skills(A skill is the learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time, energy, or both)

here we go:

you will do body for life(super simple method the original) by wade phyllips for 3 months, this will give you motivation because you will see changes IMMEDIATELY, which in turn will keep you motivated, now this are the changes i will make to body for life,

1.- every 3 weeks change the exercises.
2.- after the first month instead of a cheat day, change to half a cheat day
3.-after the second month change to a cheat meal

Then you will do p90X(for 3 months) but follow the body for life nutrition plan or similar since is easier, and TRY NOT TO CHEAT(it may happen but try not to), and if you cheat please don't let it be fast food or pizza...NO ALCOHOL(false confidence you do not need that shit)

then You will do insanity(by beach body) for 2 months, their nutrition plan is simple as well, but i still like the body for life nutrion plan better.

Then you will do p90x/insanity hybrid(for the rest of your life if you want to), i like the hybrid that team ripped has on their website....
http://teamripped.com/


my method is for people that want to get in shape mainly to lose weight gain muscle...

Supplements i really love "super hd" by cellucor is just AWESOME to get ripped

If you are skinny dude: Testosterone busters, and creatine...

With that being said, i have never done it, but most mma dudes i know do crossfit and the look amazing, I believe croosfit may the best existing stuff out there, but i don't do it...


If you do p90x that shit may get boring so the way to get around that is to print the exercises, and in your computer or ipod whatever listen to audiobooks(i use audiable.com), or youtube channnels(i usually put rsd channel or simple pick up etc...) if not is kind of boring that is the way to get around that..

Powerblocks: i workout from home i use this dumbells:http://www.powerblock.com/

the best time to workout is in the morning, that way is your priority, make that a habit, before work, get up 1.5 hours extra early, i rather die than loss a day at the gym(that should be your attitude, say that 10 times everyday)

Out!

P.S. Otis do not pupu my post please...
Ill agree with the diet aspect. I crack up when people say "you can eat whatever you want as long as you exercise" LOL

If that were true, id have no problem maintaining my weight. Anybody who says "i dont really worry about my diet, I just exercise, is not going to lose weight, but often, they think they are in shape and slim. They arent lol

I know first hand that you can exercise till your joints fall apart, if you dont watch your diet you will stay fat and/or get fatter.

The reason being is exercise isnt that effective at burning calories. If you ever look at a chart of what exercise burins off what calories, you will see even the most intense exercise only burns 500-600 calories per hour. and thats an hour every day, and high intensity.

Now if you eat 2000 calories a day, and you only burn off 500 with this exercise three or four times a week, theres still 3 or 4 days you aint burning shit.

So really most people do casual exercise that maybe burns 300-400 calories per session, which if u really watch what you eat, makes a difference, but if you dont, it makes no difference at all, but is still good for you.

if you cant be faithful to a diet everyday one thing that works is carb rotating. You eat no carbs for 4 or 5 days, and then go off it for 2 or 3, and it works, and it elimijnates alot of problems with low carb diet, mostly, u get to eat normally a few times a week.

Plus you dont lose muscle like you do on low carb all the time.

Give it a shot with exercise.
When you exercise and put muscle and/or do hit, the calories during is irrelevant, since you keep burning calories through out the day, and your metabolisim is faster, middle life, please not again, dude...

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first of all.. high carbs increases insuline.. insuline is a growth hormone antagonist. Eating shitloads of carbs just before or after exercise is a stupid idea.

Calories is not relevant...it's not like you can eat all you want because you work out alot.. by eating alot or more than you need you put way too much stress on your body. everytime you eat something your recovery slows down , everytime you don't eat something for lets say before sleeping you regenerate much faster.

what is relevant is anti-oxidants, hidden allergies. If you work out alot but if you do not get enough anti-oxidants you will do for more harm than good. If you put stress on your body, and you have hidden food allergies/intolerances you can easily damage you body over time.

of you do HIT training, high intensity or VO2 max you really need anti-oxidants people who work out alot with unhealthy or incomplete diets look like smokers.

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first of all.. high carbs increases insuline.. insuline is a growth hormone antagonist. Eating shitloads of carbs just before or after exercise is a stupid idea.

Calories is not relevant...it's not like you can eat all you want because you work out alot.. by eating alot or more than you need you put way too much stress on your body. everytime you eat something your recovery slows down , everytime you don't eat something for lets say before sleeping you regenerate much faster.

what is relevant is anti-oxidants, hidden allergies. If you work out alot but if you do not get enough anti-oxidants you will do for more harm than good. If you put stress on your body, and you have hidden food allergies/intolerances you can easily damage you body over time.

of you do HIT training, high intensity or VO2 max you really need anti-oxidants people who work out alot with unhealthy or incomplete diets look like smokers.
Wow dude thats all the old thinking or as it's called "bro-science".


First of all it is ALL ABOUT CALORIES and macros.


Yes you can eat whatever as long as you don't cross your maintenance calorie you won't gain weight.

The idea with carbs being bad/makes you fat is false.

Excess calorie makes you fat/bulk.
Deficit = loose weight.(asumming your only cutting like 10%) or so.



And as far as supplement you don't need them. They are nice but not needed.

For a skinny guy your best supplement is food.
They have a saying in the bb community "if your not growing your not eating enough"


For the people that wants to loose weight. Be on a calorie deficit of 10% of maintainance. And maintain adequate protein intake.




And more points to know.
Figure out you macros(protein/carb/fat intake) and eat anything that fits there.
Nutrition intake timing is irrelevant.
Protein shake is not needed if youre able to meet your protein intake requirent.
Get a solid program-don't make your own. Unless your a pro in which case you know your shit already.

Any question do ask.
This info is straight from bodybuilding.com so if you want Proff it's easy to find.

Ps. I'm not going for the bb look. However their information is legit and without them I would not have been able to get bulkier.


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first of all.. high carbs increases insuline.. insuline is a growth hormone antagonist. Eating shitloads of carbs just before or after exercise is a stupid idea.

Calories is not relevant...it's not like you can eat all you want because you work out alot.. by eating alot or more than you need you put way too much stress on your body. everytime you eat something your recovery slows down , everytime you don't eat something for lets say before sleeping you regenerate much faster.

what is relevant is anti-oxidants, hidden allergies. If you work out alot but if you do not get enough anti-oxidants you will do for more harm than good. If you put stress on your body, and you have hidden food allergies/intolerances you can easily damage you body over time.

of you do HIT training, high intensity or VO2 max you really need anti-oxidants people who work out alot with unhealthy or incomplete diets look like smokers.
Wow dude thats all the old thinking or as it's called "bro-science".


First of all it is ALL ABOUT CALORIES and macros.


Yes you can eat whatever as long as you don't cross your maintenance calorie you won't gain weight.

The idea with carbs being bad/makes you fat is false.

Excess calorie makes you fat/bulk.
Deficit = loose weight.(asumming your only cutting like 10%) or so.



And as far as supplement you don't need them. They are nice but not needed.

For a skinny guy your best supplement is food.
They have a saying in the bb community "if your not growing your not eating enough"


For the people that wants to loose weight. Be on a calorie deficit of 10% of maintainance. And maintain adequate protein intake.




And more points to know.
Figure out you macros(protein/carb/fat intake) and eat anything that fits there.
Nutrition intake timing is irrelevant.
Protein shake is not needed if youre able to meet your protein intake requirent.
Get a solid program-don't make your own. Unless your a pro in which case you know your shit already.

Any question do ask.
This info is straight from bodybuilding.com so if you want Proff it's easy to find.

Ps. I'm not going for the bb look. However their information is legit and without them I would not have been able to get bulkier.
All of that sounds simple, like telling a dude go to a girl escalate and fuck her, nobody sits there and count calories, that is why whoever is reading just follow the method in body for life the protein and the good carbs should be the size of your fist, salad whatever you want in at least a meal, and good fats in another...

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I think most guys are driving themselves crazy with the fitness stuff..

I'm no underwear model (yet, lol), but I've had tremendous results with paleo/primal eating. I don't count calories, I don't do cardio except for an occasional sprint. I do lift weights, but only a few times a week and just basic presses/lifts.

When I started 8mos ago I was 205 at 6'1", I've dropped 35 lbs, added noticeable muscle mass and feel amazing. I'm sure there are many who have achieved quicker results, but this was pretty close to effortless. I tried P90X... sheer torture :P

Oh, and I do have several cheat meals a week. I will have a couple drinks a couple nights a week. I don't worry about timing my meals. I just stay under 100g of carbs on 8/10 days or so, and let the fat loss ride.

Mark Sisson, check him out if you haven't already seen his 21Convention talk. Google Mark's daily apple, or primal blueprint.

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first of all.. high carbs increases insuline.. insuline is a growth hormone antagonist. Eating shitloads of carbs just before or after exercise is a stupid idea.

Calories is not relevant...it's not like you can eat all you want because you work out alot.. by eating alot or more than you need you put way too much stress on your body. everytime you eat something your recovery slows down , everytime you don't eat something for lets say before sleeping you regenerate much faster.

what is relevant is anti-oxidants, hidden allergies. If you work out alot but if you do not get enough anti-oxidants you will do for more harm than good. If you put stress on your body, and you have hidden food allergies/intolerances you can easily damage you body over time.

of you do HIT training, high intensity or VO2 max you really need anti-oxidants people who work out alot with unhealthy or incomplete diets look like smokers.
Wow dude thats all the old thinking or as it's called "bro-science".


First of all it is ALL ABOUT CALORIES and macros.


Yes you can eat whatever as long as you don't cross your maintenance calorie you won't gain weight.

The idea with carbs being bad/makes you fat is false.

Excess calorie makes you fat/bulk.
Deficit = loose weight.(asumming your only cutting like 10%) or so.



And as far as supplement you don't need them. They are nice but not needed.

For a skinny guy your best supplement is food.
They have a saying in the bb community "if your not growing your not eating enough"


For the people that wants to loose weight. Be on a calorie deficit of 10% of maintainance. And maintain adequate protein intake.




And more points to know.
Figure out you macros(protein/carb/fat intake) and eat anything that fits there.
Nutrition intake timing is irrelevant.
Protein shake is not needed if youre able to meet your protein intake requirent.
Get a solid program-don't make your own. Unless your a pro in which case you know your shit already.

Any question do ask.
This info is straight from bodybuilding.com so if you want Proff it's easy to find.

Ps. I'm not going for the bb look. However their information is legit and without them I would not have been able to get bulkier.
All of that sounds simple, like telling a dude go to a girl escalate and fuck her, nobody sits there and count calories, that is why whoever is reading just follow the method in body for life the protein and the good carbs should be the size of your fist, salad whatever you want in at least a meal, and good fats in another...
Uh it is and to say nobody counts calories you'd be surprise.

They actually have an apps for you to just put in what you ate and it does macros too.
But are you telling me your willing to put hours on end at the gym and not get your nutrition on point with just a few minutes of pressing buttons?

Seems like a waste too me.

The thing is even eating healthy isn't a good advice, you eat a bunch of healthy food and you can still gain weight if you cross your maintenance.


Ps: I counted calories and got great results. Eventually you'll be able to gauge how much you put in your body. Just like gaming first your thinking about all this stuff but eventually it becomes engrave in you.


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Most people fail at this goal because they over complicate things with what they can or cannot eat, cheat meals, meal timing, supplement etc.

When all you need to focus on is counting calories.

Is it really that complicated to count calories vs giving up foods you like?

Is paleo the same as SPAM diet?


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I think most guys are driving themselves crazy with the fitness stuff..

I'm no underwear model (yet, lol), but I've had tremendous results with paleo/primal eating. I don't count calories, I don't do cardio except for an occasional sprint. I do lift weights, but only a few times a week and just basic presses/lifts.

When I started 8mos ago I was 205 at 6'1", I've dropped 35 lbs, added noticeable muscle mass and feel amazing. I'm sure there are many who have achieved quicker results, but this was pretty close to effortless. I tried P90X... sheer torture :P

Oh, and I do have several cheat meals a week. I will have a couple drinks a couple nights a week. I don't worry about timing my meals. I just stay under 100g of carbs on 8/10 days or so, and let the fat loss ride.

Mark Sisson, check him out if you haven't already seen his 21Convention talk. Google Mark's daily apple, or primal blueprint.


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Most people fail at this goal because they over complicate things with what they can or cannot eat, cheat meals, meal timing, supplement etc.

When all you need to focus on is counting calories.

Is it really that complicated to count calories vs giving up foods you like?

Is paleo the same as SPAM diet?
it's not nessicarily that simple man, calories in vs calories out controls your weight, not your body mass index, losing weight, does not nessicarily = losing fat, and wasting will lower your metabolism, the way my trainer simplified this to me a long time ago was, water goes first, then the carbs, then the fats, then the proteins, and if your deficit is large enough your body will eventually start conserving more fat, and wasting more proteins, and protein is instumental to fat loss as amino acids have a direct effect on your metabolism

alot of people give advice that suites their metabolism, and do not take into account for a persons specific body type or what their maintenance is, or how their body responds to different macro nutrients (endo, meso, ecto will all require substancially different diets)

saying it's just living in a deficit will make you lose weight, yes, you are right there, but lose enough weight and go back to eating at your old maintenance and before you know it, you are even bigger then you were before, and you will have lost gains made in the gym

also, SPAM and paleo are somewhat similar but not the same thing, paleo does not require your body to enter SPAM at anypoint, you are encouraged to stick to fruits, veggies, nuts, and meat, SPAM is more oriented around just meat and forcing your body to produce keytone bodies in order to replace glucose

carbohydrates causing your body to produce insulin, and insulin increasing fat production is actually real science, it is a very real thing, just like entering SPAM is a very real thing, bro science = eat penut butter when you are at a plateau and it will fix it's self, worked for me bro!


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