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 Post subject: The Rose Pattern
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:17 pm 
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I want to try this pattern so I need to translate it to my language but I have difficulties...

This is the pattern:

"The basic theory of this pattern is to use it as a method to take the woman into a deep trance (she will actually assist you – isn’t that great?!?!) And put your picture in her place where she loves someone and then lock it in as absolutely true. Now, this type of pattern will create a real obsession and will lock in her feelings for you. The one problem is that it really shouldn’t be used in most contexts unless you are really sure that this is a keeper. So, use of this pattern is very very dangerous. Please use caution because you just might have created an obsessive person. This basically creates a strong compulsion via submodality shifts and locks in that change. My suggestion is to use this on your LTR or wife.
The setup for this pattern is to engage the woman in conversation. I will assume, for the purposes of this pattern, that you are able to get her into fluff talk. During the fluff talk, develop rapport, and ask about how sometimes you have a down day and feel bad. Then tell her you learned this great visualization exercise in a relaxation book. Now, women love talking about and doing anything related to self-help and improving themselves. Ask her if you could show her this exercise that will allow her to feel really great at any time (most woman will agree to this – if she doesn't, well... you're out of luck... and would you want her anyway???).
(Note: First, have her close her eyes and set it up as a visualization exercise to help her feel good... absolutely wonderful, at any time she wishes)
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You know, I learned this great visualization exercise that really helps you pick yourself up when you aren’t feeling that great. It really has helped me just perk myself up during the day and just make me feel wonderful. Would you like me to show it to you, so that you too can do this and feel absolutely wonderful? It will only take a minute or two and really will bless you with the things it can do for you.
Her: Oh yes. I would love that. Yada Yada Yada.
Okay. I would love to share this with you and really contribute to your happiness [notice the set-up for reciprocity]. Visualize a mental screen… much like a movie screen, in front of you. As you see this mental screen, allow yourself to see… your favorite flower. And, as you see this flower, allow the full sensory rich detail of the flower to be on the mental screen. See it in vivid color, each detail of the flower springing forth. Now, if I were to ask you which type of flower you are seeing, what would you say was the type of the flower? (Good way to learn her favorite flower)
Her: Roses (tulips, carnations, etc.)
Doesn’t it FEEL WONDERFUL to see the rose in such beautiful detail? As you see that flower, see the beautiful color of the rose. Allow the rich texture of it to become alive. While you see this color, hear the rustle of the petals as you see the wind blow slightly against them. And, reach out and allow the smell to become stronger, richer, and oh so beautiful. You can notice that it makes you FEEL SO RELAXED AND COMFORTABLE.
Now, as you look at this beautiful rose... if you were to visualize a picture of someone or something that you love most dearly, like say a child, parent, someone special, or favorite pet where would it be on the mental screen. Allow yourself to notice the location of where that picture WAS (notice presupposition here). Point to the area of the screen where that picture was. What would really make that rose wonderful would be to place that rose in the same location as where you saw the picture of the special something. As you now see the picture of the rose in that special place, let each petal of the rose represent some aspect of a goal.., dream…, or wish… you want to have in your life. Allow YOUR UNCONSCIOUS mind to place those goals, dreams, and wishes in the flower. As you do this, see ME in that picture smiling as you hand me that rose to hold for you. Allowing you to FEEL WONDERFUL at the knowledge that you can ask for the rose at any moment and I will hand it to you and making you FEEL SO WONDERFUL.
Now as you feel these feelings, see that picture becoming more clear, more focused. As you see me handing you the rose… STRIP AWAY… all distractions. CLOTHES OFF… YOUR MINE… to outside influences. The picture is full of rich texture, rich three-dimensional detail. Allow the smell to grow, smell the sweet scent of the flower. Allow the picture to grow larger, with each breath, it grows larger. And as you see it grow, the picture comes closer to you…becoming more clear. Moving closer to you. See the color becoming more vivid, more detailed. And, it becomes sharper, and becomes more and more like a movie... with movement.
Now, allow YOUR MINE… to take this image within yourself. Sometimes, the conscious mind gets in the way of your growth. Allow YOUR UNCONCIOUS mind to find that special place within you. That special place where you hold everything to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE. You know where that special place is, and as you feel and sense that special place, allow the picture of me holding that flower to GO DEEP INSIDE within that
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special place and lock in there. As that picture of me holding the flower locks in, hear the clanging sound similar to the slamming of a gate. You know that the picture is now locked into your place of ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
Now, it might surprise you how your unconscious mind will allow this picture of me holding the flower to pop up during your days to remind you of these wonderful feelings and allow you to FEEL SO FABULOUS. And, during your sleep, your unconscious mind will allow this to become a dream….helping you to FEEL SO GOOD. Whenever you need those feelings, ask and I will be there in your special place of absolute truth to hand you the rose of all those special feelings.
[END OF PATTERN]
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At first, I would like to know the explanation of '' as you see this flower, allow the full sensory rich detail of the flower to be on the mental screen.


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 Post subject: Really work?
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:06 pm 
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That's a lot to memorize, how effective is this pattern in all actuality? I never used a pattern this complicated before, is the pay off really worth it?


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 Post subject: Re: Really work?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:13 am 
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That's a lot to memorize, how effective is this pattern in all actuality? I never used a pattern this complicated before, is the pay off really worth it?
According to Ross Jeffries, Yes!

Please, I want to know the meaning of ''allow the full sensory rich detail of the flower''.
Other words for this?


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'Now, see the flower in all its details and allow it to...."


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Okay, thanks :)

I need to deliver this pattern in Hebrew, and there are some problems with the ''word game''

I can't say in Hebrew ''Your mine'', ''strip away'' and ''clothes off' becuase these contexts work in English only...
Can I deliver the pattern without it?'


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In my experience, NLP works only when you can make the person fully visualize the image you are trying to instill upon her.

As long as you does not infringe upon her other territories, you will be fine.

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Come on there's no need to memorize the entire pattern... If you understand the concepts of NLP(which you absolutely should with a pattern like this...) and you only remember the keys of it(Getting her in trance and accessing a state of wonderful feeling, attaching the feeling to you, closing it in her unconcious mind, making her unconcious mind reproduce this feeling over and over), you should be able to do it anytime.

However I find this pattern very dangerous. It can create true obsession, one you might have never even experienced before. Run this pattern and take her V-card, she's bound to kill herself or go completely nuts if you two break-up. Use this with great caution and responsibility.

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I havent posted or went to a seduction forum in ages... Let me just say this.... You in NO WAY want to run this on a girl that you A. Are not married to or B. Definately will marry...With it you basically create a WHOLE NEW part of her as much as her body is hers...That dam rose isnt what you want to give a girl, take it from someone who ran this on someone already.Also... You shouldnt want to memorize all this... Just try and get down the feelings it instills within her mind as you make her thoughts come and come to the same conclusion that your gift is the ONLY real gift any person in this world can ever give her... I guess a way to start is simple... Remember the discovery channel pattern, the eyes pattern and the i want you pattern... Heck plan it and transition fron one to the other in ORDER If you are doing what you need to be doing and saying it how you should be and holding her within your hands and within her mind the way that I do it , there is no way youll need anything else in relation to patterns because youll have yourself perfection in the eyes of your beholder
Good luck ... Tried finding if thy still share the rose pattern... Guess fastseduction is down... Sorry about the formatting... Dont know why im post from my cell.


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Can someone explain me why this damn patten can create obsession in a girl?

I've read OMS and other patterns from Joss Jefries and other people and i still dont get it. Why is this pattern so powerful?. I never found something special in them

Thanks in advance for your answers.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:06 am 
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Can someone explain me why this damn patten can create obsession in a girl?

I've read OMS and other patterns from Joss Jefries and other people and i still dont get it. Why is this pattern so powerful?. I never found something special in them

Thanks in advance for your answers.
Patterns in general , regardless of which one it is, stand for only 30-35% of the overall effect, You can have the OMS or Rose memorized by the letter but if the delivery is off she will think you are a creep. People dont realize that with patterns like these it is actually more about transfer (exchange if you will) of energies than about the words. This is also the reason i keep busting guys balls who wanna try the OMS to not do it because it is not something you do TO someone it is something you SHARE with someone. The fact of the matter also is that since it's you initiating it, you will experience it first making you no less fucked up than your target if you have evil schemes in mind.

To return on topic though; these patterns are powerful because they speak not to the conscious mind but to the sub-consciousness in a woman. This way you can actually make her feel and experience thing without her conscious mind having to analyze and approve it as is normal with external stimuli. You could say that you are by-passing her shields and security systems even though this is an over simplified way of putting it.

Obsession is created when you anchor these emotions and states of mind to yourself. It makes your target feel as if you understand her and are connected with her on a much deeper level of her entire being, her entire "womanness" and the only place she feels safe is in your presence/bubble. Everything outside of it in her perception will be scary and mean.

I fully agree with lagron that these techniques should NOT be used on anyone you dont plan on staying with for a very very long time (if ever).
I understand, and thanks for your answer.

I kinda had experiences with girls who became obsessed with me. (I could share the experiencies, but noone would care) but I never used these patterns.

One of these girls still calling me after almost 3 years.


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 Post subject: Re: The Rose Pattern
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:25 pm 
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I wanted to get into more Hypnosis, NLP and Mentalism and this is just the right stuff !
When I was reading the pattern I could picture myself telling a woman this, and this would definitely have you on her mind for a long long time since you can make her feel wonderful and you have her hopes and dreams in your hands and you are the one who can give it to her.

On the other hand, this is dangerous stuff. I only love it because I love the human mind and this brings me closer to understanding its power.

I would not try this myself to often because it is however toying with people's minds, it's almost like getting a girl drunk to come home with you, but this is more dangerous because a good night out getting drunk can make you forget, and this can't.

What is most important of all I guess is the ''delivery'' of it.
A matching voice tonality, knowing when to pause, speed it up and to slow it down, all crucial factors into making this work, I love it. I understand the skepticism and disinterest of others, it's pretty dangerous to toy with a woman's mind like that. However women play with men's minds all the time, they just need a shirt skirt and a nice rack ! haha..

Can anyone recommend any good books on Mentalism/Hypnosis, or any good Ross Jeffries books ??

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 Post subject: Re: The Rose Pattern
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Nice this was realy interesting. I can imagine this to be powerfull. But i would never ever try this one, maybe if it's possible to mix it up, maybe telling her that the person that gives the flower is someone else besides you?

For example, it would be cool to do this as a favor for a friend (who realy loves someone and want that person to be with him forever).
But i would never make a girl getting obsessed of me, i have experienced it once (without any pattern), and i never want to experience it again, it's realy realy scary...

Anyway, nice post, it was entertaining :)


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