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I will try this diet for 10 days because it could potentially change my life  100%  [ 73 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:23 am 
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PUA Lucky, what do you make of this situation . . . .

I've had concentration problems my whole life as well as a host of other issues like infrequent bowel movements, acne, low energy, brain fog, and when I got older, low libido. When I was in college however, I decided to do a Paleolithic type of diet to see if it would help. It was astounding. I ate only raw spinach, salted nuts, plain meats, rice protein, water, and shots of organic flaxseed oil. After about 2 months, my acne was gone, my energy through the roof, my concentration was IMPECCABLE, and my libido was sky high.

Unfortunately, as this was in college, this all only lasted song long before I gave into beer and gluten filled foods. I always thought that carbohydrates and sugars (regardless if it came from potatoes, fruits, and other non casein non gluten sources) were the culprit behind my brain fog, acne and other issues. But after reading this, I think it might be perhaps gluten and casein. My question to you is . . . do you know if casein and gluten disrupt regular insulin and glucose metabolism? And what their affect is on the liver?


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PUA Lucky, what do you make of this situation . . . .

I've had concentration problems my whole life as well as a host of other issues like infrequent bowel movements, acne, low energy, brain fog, and when I got older, low libido. When I was in college however, I decided to do a Paleolithic type of diet to see if it would help. It was astounding. I ate only raw spinach, salted nuts, plain meats, rice protein, water, and shots of organic flaxseed oil. After about 2 months, my acne was gone, my energy through the roof, my concentration was IMPECCABLE, and my libido was sky high.

Unfortunately, as this was in college, this all only lasted song long before I gave into beer and gluten filled foods. I always thought that carbohydrates and sugars (regardless if it came from potatoes, fruits, and other non casein non gluten sources) were the culprit behind my brain fog, acne and other issues. But after reading this, I think it might be perhaps gluten and casein. My question to you is . . . do you know if casein and gluten disrupt regular insulin and glucose metabolism? And what their affect is on the liver?
All your symptoms could be from systemic candida, which would explain why you felt amazing on no sugar diet.

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@accountguy25 ,
Dude, you are gluten/casein intolerance!
You had all the symptoms, and when you did your diet in college you were cured.

Carbs are different. The best carbs are from vegetables tubers: potatoes, carrots, beets
Then seed/legumes
but wheat or anything like it (such as barley) is SHIT

To answer your question, gluten FUCKS insulin and glucose metabolism. It wasn't the fact that you ate no carb, it was the fact that you had no gluten or casein in college. As far as what it does to the liver, there is too much information to give it all. I know you're not happy with my answer, but the best way for you to understand the difference is to do some research. I could do it for you but it takes hours if not days.

Also, Txacoli said that your problem is cause by candida. I have reasearch candida and to summarize what I found is: NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS CANDIDA. But if you are gluten intolerant, then you probably had candida.
I believe that candida did not cause your problems. But candida (or your bad acne) was as symptom of not being able to digest gluten.
Also, if you read about candida, they say the only way to cure it is to not eat sugar of any kind, not even in rice carrots or potatoes.
And that's just fucking stupid...you will feel like shit if you do that diet, I try it
There are a couple of people how mention how they went on a rice diet and cured their candida, so its not the sugar...it's the gluten
besides, everyone has candida in their instestines. It is natural.
I think the body reproduces candida to help fight the gluten molecules...I could be full of shit on that one but not even scientist have decided why does the body makes more candida...
This is what doctors say about candida:
  • "we have pill! buy it and you can kill candida!
    we don't know if it's good or bad!
    but because it is a yeast, we say it's bad!
    plus we want your money!
    opps, i mean for you to be cured!
    trust me, I'm a doctor!"
fuck doctors

@Indomitus
If that works for you, then great!
But before you jump to that conclusion, try it for at least a month. You have only done it for 4 days which you shouldn't feel at all awesome, in fact you should be in detox mode...4 days will not make you have the awesome feeling I am describing. After a month, you will understand what I mean by AWESOME. and after one month, if you do eat pie or bread or milk, you will see what feeling like SHIT really is

@zahei,
Np, I'm here to help

About the soya milk, I just read this from this website http://www.theharcombedietclub.com/foru ... Alpro-Soya
  • "I've just looked at the Alpro unsweetened soya milk and the ingredients are: Water, Hulled soya beans (6,5%), Acidity regulators (Dipotassium phosphate, Monopotassium phosphate), Calcium carbonate, Maltodextrin, Stabiliser (Gellan gum), Vitamins (Riboflavin, B12, D2). The ingredients in milk are milk - full stop! Maltodextrin is a starch based polysaccharide - invariably wheat based!! This is why I hate processed foods. The nasty food manufacturers will slip anything in where we least expect it."
It says that they add wheat to the milk, so avoid it at all cost




@GeneralOJF,
the only way to prove your family is to do the diet. After a month, if you haven't die, they will believe you haha
I tried with my family showing them numerous article, including scientific articles, but they won't believe it until you actually do it

And if you're looking anerextic skinny, this should at least make you skinny but looking "healthy"...not super scranny

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Actually candida and gluten intolerance are closely connected, since candida makes a protein similar to gluten that then goes into your bloodstream and they both cause autoimmune disease. Candida is very real, doctors just don't have an effective way of dealing with it permanently. Eating raw will keep candida at bay, you can eat starches, no problem there. Anybody with a real, tangible gluten intolerance and candida probably has a defective bowel to some extend and should address that first. No better way to heal a bowel than eating raw combined with periods of fasting.

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PUA Lucky, what you say makes sense. And I hope to god that it's true, because eating no carbs what so ever is extremely difficult. I could definitely do the diet if I could at least have rice, potatoes, etc. . . .

I had actually seen a natural doctor who suggested that I had Candida, which is what made me go on the diet. The funny thing is, I was able to handle most cheeses, just not processed milk straight up. But I think just because the cheese itself didn't do anything, doesn't necessarily mean it's byproducts (casein) didn't linger around and make digestion difficult for OTHER foods.

You seem to know a lot about health so I'll also share this with you to get your opinion . . . I had seen a holistic dentist who also happened to be a nutritionist and acupuncturist. He did tests on me and suggested I had leaky gut and a toxic liver. He proceeded to give me chinese herbs and liver cleanse tabs from premier labs, as well as a glutamine supplement to heal my intestinal walls. It worked like magic! It cleared my face up like crazy and regulated my bowel movements like never before. I was able to eat junk while taking them and not break out (however, my other symptoms of brainfog and such still remained--> insulin screwed up?)

Also, I would like to continue to be able to drink alcohol. I only do so on weekends for social occasions and am willing to give up beer. I know u say tha some wine companies use wheat, but would you know how to find out which do and which don't? Additionally, is tequila and vodka OK? Secondly, do you know what the effects of Gluten and Casein are on libido, if anything?

(P.S. How long you think it would take for my insulin to be able to handle good carbs again (rice, potatoes, fruit) if I do no casein and no insulin?)


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*no casein and no gluten

And I forgot..... during the 10 days (or month, which does which) can I eat potatoes and yams, or is it better to resist all carbs regardless to allow my insulin and glucose metabolism to reboot?


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PUALucky they got a word for your people eating like you. Fruitarians.

I've lived on raw fruits, veggies and lots of water for the last week, and I plan to keep it going till I witness fatique in body, which I don't suppose'll happen.

Noticed benefits so far:

- Doodoo don't stink (sometimes it smells like banana, which is preferable over the smell of shit)
- Smoothening of skin
- Smoothening of lips
- Slightly better eyesight (could be mindfuck)

Noticed downsides:

- Meat cravings!
- Sugar cravings!
- Cravings in general!
- It is considered weird only to eat fruits.


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i checked that Maltodextrin that you said is bad in soya `milk` and found this stuff:

”Maltodextrin can be enzymatically derived from any starch. In the US, this starch is usually corn; in Europe, it is commonly wheat. While wheat-derived maltodextrin may cause concern for individuals suffering from gluten intolerance, maltodextrin is such a highly processed ingredient that the majority of the protein is removed, rendering it effectively gluten free. If wheat is used to make maltodextrin, it will appear on the label. Even so, the maltodextrin itself will be gluten free.”

i think it may be safe, dunno for sure, it may be a great substitute for milk.

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PUALucky they got a word for your people eating like you. Fruitarians.

I've lived on raw fruits, veggies and lots of water for the last week, and I plan to keep it going till I witness fatique in body, which I don't suppose'll happen.

Noticed benefits so far:

- Doodoo don't stink (sometimes it smells like banana, which is preferable over the smell of shit)
- Smoothening of skin
- Smoothening of lips
- Slightly better eyesight (could be mindfuck)

Noticed downsides:

- Meat cravings!
- Sugar cravings!
- Cravings in general!
- It is considered weird only to eat fruits.
Fruitarians don't eat vegetables, only fruit and nuts, and some don't even eat nuts.

Anyway, on my average day I now eat organic veg, potatoes, fruit and nuts, and about three tins of Mackerel. I sometimes have organic eggs and beef(not often though). I make sure its organic so the animals are fed grass instead of genetically engineered grain, and so the plants haven't absorbed nasty chemicals.

Also Lucky, if you only eat raw veg and fruit, where do you get protein, calcium, vitamin B's, iron, omega 3's and all that other shit? I'm not asking to argue against the diet, it's so I have something to say when I get whined at by family/teachers. My BMI is 17, which needs upping a bit..what should I be eating most of to increase it? Thanks for your help.


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@ accountguy,
Feel free to eat meat, rice, potatoes, fruits, etc as long as it's not gluten or casein. Do no make this diet harder than it already is.

I'm glad the chinese herbs help you but I'm super against any kind of supplements if somebody still eats like shit. Metaphorically speaking, to me it's like a doctor tells you to stop drinking soda and drink water (the supplement) while you're still snorting coke (you still eat shit)...sure it helps, but you it's not curing your disease, it's treating...so I really find what you're telling me really hard to believe

Dude, you can still drink alcohol! : )
I only like liquor so I only drink bocardi 151....that's about it. Tequila is game too. Vodka is okay if it's made out of grapes (Ciroc) or potato (a few!). Wine is okay but not all brands. And because I literally only drink bocardi I can't tell you what you can drink...just google up "Gluten free alcohol" and they will tell you all the liquors you can drink

About libido, gluten = asexual (you're not gay, but you don't want to fuck) It happen to me but I never knew I was asexual until I became sexual. Before the diet, thru my adolecense, (I'm going in detail here, no homo) I would look at a girl and thought "damn, she's fine!" but I wasn't really horny when I looked at her. Once I was on the diet, I remember the first time I became sexual, I saw this girl I knew with a skirt and I something took over my body and I got a boner just like that....I was so horny I just came up to her and lifted her skirt! So beign asexual it's not like you're not horny, youre just not super horny like you should be...and you will know you're sexual once you start getting borners just by lookign at girls
(P.S. How long you think it would take for my insulin to be able to handle good carbs again (rice, potatoes, fruit) if I do no casein and no insulin?)


It takes about 10 days for your body to be able to fully utilize carbs again, 10 days of avoiding gluten/casein

good luck! remember, don't be a bitch with the diet, go hardcore! this will make or break your life, LITERALLY

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@ accountguy,
bro, during the 10 days EAT CARBS!!! just not from grains such as barley, wheat, or anything that's wheat related
because if you don't, like I did for 3 days, you will pass out!

btw, I said a month because if during those 10 days you see amazing results then you will want to do this for a month....actually for life....you can't never have gluten or casein again. believe. I have tried eating again just a couple of bites and it fucked me up...but you will get use to it, you will hate gluten/casein. so it's not really hard to never eat it...jsut remember "I could eat gluten to feel happy for 30 minutes while I'm eating, but then I'll be a punk axious bitch who can't get a boner, or I can let the pleasure of the having the taste of gluten and instead be a supa pimp daddy fucking 3 bitches a day"

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@ velocity,
I'm actually not a fruitarian...I do not believe that's a healthy way to eat.
I actually RARELY eat fruits, maybe four pears or a bag of grapes a MONTH.

I been studying diet for four years and found out that if you get your energy (carbs) from fructose (fruits) instead of starch (potatoes), you will become anexic skinny and supa weak....if you do starch, you can get skinny but a healthy skinny....like tyler durden in fight club or tyler durden (the pua) from rsd now on his new videos

IM A RAW VEGAN

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Thats kinda the diet i used for my bodybuilding show a few years back... i mainly eat those things now... I stay away from breads and shit foods...but i do add in Essential Fatty Acids and vitamins... none the less great way to feel better and healthier

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Thanks again Lucky. And btw, I'm 4 days gluten and casein free so far! Gonna go out tonight to celebrate my friend leaving for the marines and get wasted on some gluten free beer! I'll let you know how the diet works out.


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@zehei,
don' bother taking the risk...besides you're still in a way giving to your milk addiciton by replacing it with something that tastes and feels like milk...just let milk go

@General,
Yo, I research diet for 4 years so I can't tell you in one sentence where all those nutrients come from, but I can tell this after years of research: HUMANS ONLY HAVE DISCOVERED SOME NUTRIENTS THAT WE NEED. They also know some things those nutrients do to our bodies. Also, in every country...there are HUGE differences between the actual amount of each nutrients we need to eat...in other words, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DIET. And as far scientist know, we CAN get all those nutrients (especially from potatoes since they are almost perfect). If you really are interested, you should research...but be warned this will take on a long ass journey...it is exactly like pick up.

To increase your body mass, simply eat more starch vegetables....and maybe meat? I don't know about meat and bmi...i hate meat haha

oh yea, FUCK SUPPLEMENTS....we can't really tell how much of those supplements your body really absorbs or throws away...it just some good ass marketing to steal your $$$

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