Hello everyone, just registered on this website.Thought Id introduce myself and have a few questions

I am a 19 year old female student.

I am fascinated by the art of attraction. I respect puas alot because they are the only ones that are fun to be around and manage to keep me interested for longer then 5 minutes.


Unfortunately nor pua nor afc approach me ,not because I am ugly but because I am really intimidating. I just read a few books about body language etcetera and turns out my body language is really dominant I have black hair and straight brows ( not submissive ) etc

When I finally happen to talk to an afc I get bored we talk small talk, and I feel like I cant be bothered, also the guys I end up attracting are never dominant real men because I always end up being the teaser, the hard to get one , the one that makes the first move etc..why is this?

Basically decided to join this site to improve skills on women so I am wondering does it work by a women on a women ?
And by a women on men ?

I also want to attract other types of men and I want to be the one to approach because that keeps things fun for me so that I dont get bored...Unfortunately I read somewhere that women should never approach men because the aggresive approach turns men off. is this true?

pickup artist artist

lol

Lol well I want to pick up men and women guess that makes me a pick up artist artist hahaahahaah

Welcome to the forums! My poly-girlfriend is a playette and she is a fan of going direct on guys. It seems to work well for her, but you should experiment and figure out what works best for you.

She has a blog about that kind of stuff which you might find insightful: http://polygoodgirl.livejournal.com/

-Wolf

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Sounds like my type.

I would not say that it is a turn off, but only a confident guy could handle it. So be picky

Thanks for the replies !
I have used the direct approach and it always goes pretty much like this :

Me: I think your cute so I thought Id come and have a chat with you, bet you dont mind.
He: No I dont mind , you are so beautifull /sexy ! really !
After this things go downhill convo is boring if he is shy I will leave , second scenario he invites me to the bathroom or smt.Now, I want to be a pickup artist not a slut, so I will refuse and that will be the end.

Also what bothers me with the direct approach is that we will both have made it clear we want eachother so a part of the tension dissapears..

Now what I want is get the real attractive men or women I want solid 10s
hhehehe so Im going to read on abit now that I know women can use the skills aswell.

Oh and I read the link , good stuff ! Interesting type of relationship ! I want something like that aswell lol but its considered beyond disgusting in my environment... like people will think I am sick in my head lol

Swedish ..........Yet I attract really submissive men ...or total freaks who just want to fuck me immediately .. lol

That's actually kinda funny that you say that.. just today, in the relationships forum, somebody told me:
Oh well, I don't let other people stop me from living the life that I want to live.

-Wolf

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Dominant men are dominant. They want to identify, stalk, and pursue their target before finally seizing it for themselves, like a lion. This is true when they're buying a car, when they're deciding what career path they want to take, and, of course, when they're picking out girls they want to get with. Submissive guys are like hyenas: they wait for scraps to come their way, and usually get stuck with whatever the lions don't really want. Dominant men are weirded out by aggressive girls because they don't want to be out-dominated (emasculated) by what they see as a target or prize, whereas submissive men are so desperate to take whatever they can get that they don't even care.

I don't know much about women picking up women, all I can say is that, based on my experience, bisexual girls are totally insane, sometimes in a fun way and sometimes in a dangerous way. But yeah, you're on your own with that one. As far as women picking up men, here's the situation: if you have a fat, ugly girl, looking to get laid by a normal, decent guy, it's probably not gonna happen unless the guy gets really drunk. Guys decide whether a girl is attractive or not based on her physical appearance: everything else is secondary. If a girl is even moderately pretty, then she has a pretty good shot at hooking up with any guy she wants: just telling him that she's willing to falace him will almost always do the trick.

The attractiveness of a guy through the eyes of a girl, on the other hand, is based on his ability to provide "security" through physical, social, or financial means, depending on the environment. Game is, essentially, advertising yourself to girls as being a "high value" individual who is capable of providing these things, even if that's not actually the case. Since guys can manipulate how they are perceived in terms of social and financial standing, they have a lot of control over their level of attractiveness to girls.

To attract a woman: prove to her that you're a high value individual who guys want to be and who other girls want to be with.

To attract a guy: look hot. Make it obvious to them that you are a prize that they can compete against other guys for and eventually win for themselves.

If you want to attract every guy on the face of the Earth, dominant ones included, you need to make yourself into the ultimate prize. Now, I don't know if you're hot, or pretty, or whatever, so I can't make a concrete statement on this, but if you're at least somewhat pretty, you have a good shot at attracting whoever it is you want to attract, as long as you go about it the right way. You don't have to be submissive, but I'd definitely tone down the aggression. One of the hottest, most desirable girls I've ever met is this girl from Russia whose personality sounds similar to yours. She doesn't aggressively chase down guys, but she lets them know she's ready to play, and that, while getting with her is definitely in the cards, it's going to be a challenge. Submissive guys rightfully assume they don't even have a shot with her: only the confident guys will pursue her. They talk to each other about how hot she is and how much they'd love to get with her. The fact that she has a personality like the one she does makes it like a competition or game that not every guy can win. Needless to say, other girls are intimidated by her because she's the Lamborghini to their Geo Metros.

Didn't mean to write a novel there, but that's what I think, based on my experience. Anyway, welcome to the site. It's pretty cool to see a chick on here who actually knows about this stuff.

Respect you for that Wolfwood!

Chocolate, thanks a lot for answering my questions in detail.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh that totally explains why I always get the submissive guys after me ! which will change from now on partly thanks to your explanation

What do you mean with bisexual girls are insane in a dangerous way ?? Lol

I am not extremely confident but I know I am well above average, Id give myself a 7 I guess but my brother says im an 8.5 other men have given me 9 and 10s but they where prolly saying that because they wanted to get In my pants methinks … haha.If you want I can show you a picture where you can honestly rate...I need to know what im honestly worth on the meat market once and for all . haha

Question is how do I make myself the ultimate prize? Besides looking hot
I read somewhere that in order to get a man to really like you In short you have to look him in the eyes a lot with dilated pupils , praise him , listen to him , compliment him and ask him for advice and do stuff with him rather then talk..be available alot at first and later on unavailable...etc
This was a bit shocking for me because I do the opposite lol im like those little boys in the playground. Do you think it’s true that sucking up to a guy and being all sweety sweety does the trick??lol

Shit paradise, want to be my wing?!

The problem with being the dominant one in the suduction is the fact your most probably going to be gaming beta guys, because the alphas are already in set and not propping up a bar.

Your going to have to learn how to open mixed sets because the guys you want are going to certainly be with girls.
Your going to have to learn to BMOG to take the beta girls out of the equation too. The good thing is that guys won't see you coming, they hardly ever get hit on. You'll be a breath of fresh air, exactly what a PUA strives to be, different.

As you'll see we don't discriminate here, I look forward to your field reports.

Good luck.

Lol @ quoting Sharon Osbourne… Well I’m going to give it a shot this Saturday then, I have a hardstyle party coming up , probably not the best place to meet decent men but the ratio male to female is at least going to be good. Still,It’s going to be extremely difficult for me though because I’m just not the suck up type..

Voltaire id love to be your wing ! I feel really welcomed on here, thanks a lot everyone !am glad there is no discrimination
Excited to be getting in the field Saturday!

They can be really fun at first, but after a few drinks (or pills, in one girl's case), they can get a little crazy. One minute we're just hanging out, the next minute we're out causing mayhem and MAYBE fracturing an occasional law here and there. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, like, don't get me wrong. It's just that when I'm hanging out with a bisexual chick, I know I'm gonna get into trouble that night, but I'll probably have a lot of fun up until that point.

Family members are a bit biased, I think, and those other guys definitely have an agenda (they're guys). If you want me to rate, I will.

I don't know if "sweety sweety" is what you want to strive for, although the asking him for advice is classic. The ability to listen is good, too, along with the coveted ability to do stuff (actual stuff, not just sexual stuff) with him. As far as praising goes, it can help here and there, as long as it's not fake. And I'm not sure you can control your pupils: I think they dilate automatically when you see something/someone you want, if your using certain drugs, or if it gets dark out. The best advice I can give, though, as vague as it may be, is to just be real. The girl from Russia I was talking about kind of acts like a dude at first. When she first talked to me (she initiated) we talked about the NFL game that had taken place the night before. She wasn't all "bro-like" about it or overzealous about the fact that she sounded like a tomboy, she was just... cool. It was like talking to a confident, cool guy with an absurdly hot, female body. Nice-looking girls who suck up to guys and act all bubbly and stupid are attractive because guys think they're easy, which is often the case. Nice-looking girls who play it cool don't come across as being so easy, but it means a lot more to get with them, and guys are a lot more likely to take them seriously.

Okay cool I’ll send you a few pictures in pm , be honest please.

oh and Apparently you can dilate your pupils by focusing on the nice parts of the person his/her face ( and I say face because people notice when your looking elsewhere lol ). Like if he has nice lips I’ll look at them and if I fantasize about sleeping with him etc my pupils also dilate

No the sweety sweety is not what I strive for then.But I am going to try to be sweeter lol.Been reading some more and I love the lines the guys use to approach girls... asking them for advice whether they look gay and so on..I am starting to realize for women things are different and am having trouble finding out what to do and what not to do..can I NEG men?.. I do ALOT naturally ... I naturally say things like:

if he says I like/listen to dubstep
Ill be like yeah its a real hype around teenage boys its okay but its got this same immature sound to it in every song. Anyways I wouldnt worry too much about your dubstep sickness in a few years youll have grown out of it , your going to be fine honey..

or

I bet your the virgin of the group to the one I like or whatever and then I focus on his friends..again these are things I do naturally ... should I continue with this behaviour or not? I also always disagree naturally, because I find myself disagreeing continue this or stop?

I love women with game
Welcome to the forum.
You sound pretty intelligent and confident, a true alpha female.
Maybe you should change the venue for your pick-ups. Toning down your sarcasm won't get you the type of guy you're looking for. I'm sure he'd know how to handle it. So maybe you should try a more intellectual venue, like a museum, a bookstore, or a jazz gig/bar.
Another thing, I don't think direct approach is best, since quality guys like to do the hunting. You need to watch your body language, make yourself available and open for them to come up to you. Remember to smile when you're teasing and contribute to the conversation. Warm the guys up before they approach you, smile, keep eye contact, open body language etc.
And another thing, you can use future projections in the convo to encourage guys, saying something like, maybe I'll let you take me (insert place) once, describe what it would feel like to be there with him etc. You're not throwing yourself at him, but you're being open to the possibility of a date. Don't ever flake unless he deserves it by being a jerk.
And finally, me wants a pic too If you'd like an honest lesbo opinion

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