The game is different based on whether or not you plan to visit this club again. I usually always assume i will be back ( unless it is far out of town or I am on vacation)

I do not have any outlines or model of what I do, but I do have some rituals that I tend to follow.

If you arrive at the club early, it is a good idea to spend some time with the staff. Being very polite and friendly can help you later on in the night.

Even before entering, talk to the door man establish a good rapport with him, get his name. Be extremely friendly. Try to be memorable. ( this can help you in the future if you frequent the club again)

I usually always look for an attractive bartender, ( male or female) I will order a drink and then offer a very big tip 5-10$ I will then say to them, I am giving you this tip now to ensure great service from you, there will be another big tip at the end of the night. This usually gets you served first approaching the bar when crowded. The reason I look for the most attractive is because they usually have the most eyes on them when it becomes packed.( while customers are waiting for drinks) So when you come to the bar to order another drink and they serve you first, it usually makes others wonder, what is so special about you.

Talk to the bouncers, establish a friendly rapport, get their names and remember them. You never know when you may need their help. ( being seen with bouncers can often help you establish a sort of don't mess with this guy attitude from other alpha males in the club)

After I have successfully worked the staff, I will then seek out a spot in the bar where I can see the most. I spend the next 30-60 minutes observing ( I will rarely work game right away unless it presents itself to me)

I will also do many laps of the club getting myself seen and trying to establish eye contact with as many beautiful woman as possible. When eye contact is established as I walk by, I will usually smile or make some sort of positive gesture then keep walking. ( I am not approaching anyone at this time)

What I am looking for is simple tells, wedding bands/engagement rings, boyfriends, signs of interest- extended looks, smiles, smirks, attention, positive energy, dancing style, drunkiness ( too drunk is no good for my game) cock blockers...etc etc. All of these things are observed when trying to find a mark.

I will only pick one mark at a time, sure there may be 10 girls i want to work on, but i will only focus on one at a time.

A very important element in a club setting is your comfort around other alpha males. It is wise to always find friendly ones, based on over heard conversation etc. A very easy way to establish a friendship with them is to show your interest in the women in the club. ( As a hot woman walks by, observe her then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment on how hot she was to the other men and what you would like to do to her) It's a form of mutual bonding, as all of you have the same intentions.

Never address a group of men, usually one or two men at once. Groups tend to have a group mentality and you can often be seen unconsciously as an intruder but by talking to one or two members of the group can easily bring you into general acceptance.

Easiest way to get respect from guys in a club, is to be good at dancing. Dancing is the best possible tool to have in a club setting, the better you are, the more respect you will garner. ( If you are not in anyway an alpha male, i suggest you learn to dance well) It also sets you apart from the rest. Almost any dance floor in any club anywhere in the world is usually 80-90% women. Then out of the 10-20% of men on the dance floor, how many are dancing well or even dancing period. If you are on the dance floor dancing well, you become a very small percentile, thus making you unique.


Becoming comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mind set. The better your mindset, the better your game.

SexAddict911, I can totally believe that you are a massage therapist, you could even be a romantic novelist ! Your care and attention to the way you write and frame your sentences exhibit those qualities. But you fail the test of having a temperament of a guy who has slept with multiple(100s) of women.

You just don't have the structure and frame in your game (from your advices) to pick up soo many women. Also, anyone who has been around women would tell you that a cool temperament and frame control are key to success. You dont have either of them. You cant stand getting challenged which further raises doubts about your ability to be successful when tested by women.

However, some of your advices are good, esp. the ones about developing a social group outside of university and school etc.. other ones such as eye contact walking up etc. are also fine. You must have been around, even slept with 10 or may be say 20 women but you are still not there No matter how much you scream from a rooftop.

In a crowded Bar/Club with loud music and high energy and hundreds of people engaged in something or appear to and attractions being sparked by the minute, you mean to say you walk around waiting for 3 IOIs or eye contact before you even move in!! - Good luck with that You are wasting your time. I move in with one or non - just walk in and try spark that attraction. Dont waste time to get noticed !

Anyways you have a good number of followers in the thread so hope you can give them responsible and good advise. - Good luck.

SexAddict911, I can totally believe that you are a massage therapist, you could even be a romantic novelist ! Your care and attention to the way you write and frame your sentences exhibit those qualities. But you fail the test of having a temperament of a guy who has slept with multiple(100s) of women.

You just don't have the structure and frame in your game (from your advices) to pick up soo many women. Also, anyone who has been around women would tell you that a cool temperament and frame control are key to success. You dont have either of them. You cant stand getting challenged which further raises doubts about your ability to be successful when tested by women.

However, some of your advices are good, esp. the ones about developing a social group outside of university and school etc.. other ones such as eye contact walking up etc. are also fine. You must have been around, even slept with 10 or may be say 20 women but you are still not there No matter how much you scream from a rooftop.

In a crowded Bar/Club with loud music and high energy and hundreds of people engaged in something or appear to and attractions being sparked by the minute, you mean to say you walk around waiting for 3 IOIs or eye contact before you even move in!! - Good luck with that You are wasting your time. I move in with one or non - just walk in and try spark that attraction. Dont waste time to get noticed !

Anyways you have a good number of followers in the thread so hope you can give them responsible and good advise. - Good luck.

The game is different based on whether or not you plan to visit this club again. I usually always assume i will be back ( unless it is far out of town or I am on vacation)

I do not have any outlines or model of what I do, but I do have some rituals that I tend to follow.

If you arrive at the club early, it is a good idea to spend some time with the staff. Being very polite and friendly can help you later on in the night.

Even before entering, talk to the door man establish a good rapport with him, get his name. Be extremely friendly. Try to be memorable. ( this can help you in the future if you frequent the club again)

I usually always look for an attractive bartender, ( male or female) I will order a drink and then offer a very big tip 5-10$ I will then say to them, I am giving you this tip now to ensure great service from you, there will be another big tip at the end of the night. This usually gets you served first approaching the bar when crowded. The reason I look for the most attractive is because they usually have the most eyes on them when it becomes packed.( while customers are waiting for drinks) So when you come to the bar to order another drink and they serve you first, it usually makes others wonder, what is so special about you.

Talk to the bouncers, establish a friendly rapport, get their names and remember them. You never know when you may need their help. ( being seen with bouncers can often help you establish a sort of don't mess with this guy attitude from other alpha males in the club)

After I have successfully worked the staff, I will then seek out a spot in the bar where I can see the most. I spend the next 30-60 minutes observing ( I will rarely work game right away unless it presents itself to me)

I will also do many laps of the club getting myself seen and trying to establish eye contact with as many beautiful woman as possible. When eye contact is established as I walk by, I will usually smile or make some sort of positive gesture then keep walking. ( I am not approaching anyone at this time)

What I am looking for is simple tells, wedding bands/engagement rings, boyfriends, signs of interest- extended looks, smiles, smirks, attention, positive energy, dancing style, drunkiness ( too drunk is no good for my game) cock blockers...etc etc. All of these things are observed when trying to find a mark.

I will only pick one mark at a time, sure there may be 10 girls i want to work on, but i will only focus on one at a time.

A very important element in a club setting is your comfort around other alpha males. It is wise to always find friendly ones, based on over heard conversation etc. A very easy way to establish a friendship with them is to show your interest in the women in the club. ( As a hot woman walks by, observe her then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment on how hot she was to the other men and what you would like to do to her) It's a form of mutual bonding, as all of you have the same intentions.

Never address a group of men, usually one or two men at once. Groups tend to have a group mentality and you can often be seen unconsciously as an intruder but by talking to one or two members of the group can easily bring you into general acceptance.

Easiest way to get respect from guys in a club, is to be good at dancing. Dancing is the best possible tool to have in a club setting, the better you are, the more respect you will garner. ( If you are not in anyway an alpha male, i suggest you learn to dance well) It also sets you apart from the rest. Almost any dance floor in any club anywhere in the world is usually 80-90% women. Then out of the 10-20% of men on the dance floor, how many are dancing well or even dancing period. If you are on the dance floor dancing well, you become a very small percentile, thus making you unique.


Becoming comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mind set. The better your mindset, the better your game.

I thought what he just described was very similar to Gambler, working the room, warming up sets, approaching one by one. It would take less approaches to score than otherwise, don't you think?

I've read the thread, and as most people, I was sceptical, but as the pages went on it became more and more convincing that you have competence behind the numbers. 800 is a scary big number, but so is 20 years, and I'm reading good tips from you. Congrats, you got me as a reader. Keep up the good work.

The game is different based on whether or not you plan to visit this club again. I usually always assume i will be back ( unless it is far out of town or I am on vacation)

I do not have any outlines or model of what I do, but I do have some rituals that I tend to follow.

If you arrive at the club early, it is a good idea to spend some time with the staff. Being very polite and friendly can help you later on in the night.

Even before entering, talk to the door man establish a good rapport with him, get his name. Be extremely friendly. Try to be memorable. ( this can help you in the future if you frequent the club again)

I usually always look for an attractive bartender, ( male or female) I will order a drink and then offer a very big tip 5-10$ I will then say to them, I am giving you this tip now to ensure great service from you, there will be another big tip at the end of the night. This usually gets you served first approaching the bar when crowded. The reason I look for the most attractive is because they usually have the most eyes on them when it becomes packed.( while customers are waiting for drinks) So when you come to the bar to order another drink and they serve you first, it usually makes others wonder, what is so special about you.

Talk to the bouncers, establish a friendly rapport, get their names and remember them. You never know when you may need their help. ( being seen with bouncers can often help you establish a sort of don't mess with this guy attitude from other alpha males in the club)

After I have successfully worked the staff, I will then seek out a spot in the bar where I can see the most. I spend the next 30-60 minutes observing ( I will rarely work game right away unless it presents itself to me)

I will also do many laps of the club getting myself seen and trying to establish eye contact with as many beautiful woman as possible. When eye contact is established as I walk by, I will usually smile or make some sort of positive gesture then keep walking. ( I am not approaching anyone at this time)

What I am looking for is simple tells, wedding bands/engagement rings, boyfriends, signs of interest- extended looks, smiles, smirks, attention, positive energy, dancing style, drunkiness ( too drunk is no good for my game) cock blockers...etc etc. All of these things are observed when trying to find a mark.

I will only pick one mark at a time, sure there may be 10 girls i want to work on, but i will only focus on one at a time.

A very important element in a club setting is your comfort around other alpha males. It is wise to always find friendly ones, based on over heard conversation etc. A very easy way to establish a friendship with them is to show your interest in the women in the club. ( As a hot woman walks by, observe her then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment on how hot she was to the other men and what you would like to do to her) It's a form of mutual bonding, as all of you have the same intentions.

Never address a group of men, usually one or two men at once. Groups tend to have a group mentality and you can often be seen unconsciously as an intruder but by talking to one or two members of the group can easily bring you into general acceptance.

Easiest way to get respect from guys in a club, is to be good at dancing. Dancing is the best possible tool to have in a club setting, the better you are, the more respect you will garner. ( If you are not in anyway an alpha male, i suggest you learn to dance well) It also sets you apart from the rest. Almost any dance floor in any club anywhere in the world is usually 80-90% women. Then out of the 10-20% of men on the dance floor, how many are dancing well or even dancing period. If you are on the dance floor dancing well, you become a very small percentile, thus making you unique.


Becoming comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mind set. The better your mindset, the better your game.

lol what... he asked you for a model of what you do...

The only thing that you described a MODEL of what you do, is to the STAFF.
Yea sure, tip them, get friendly with them, ask their names, get to know the bouncers. ok thats your model....

After that you just described your MODEL of meeting women as:
- Sitting on your own for 60 minutes not doing anything just observing (ugh thats creepy as)

- Walking around the club, looking at girls in the eyes and passing by not doing anything, maybe just a little gesture (cringes)

- Observing the alpha males and how to address them.. Then "As a hot woman walks by, observe her then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment on how hot she was to the other men and what you would like to do to her" (lol duuuuuuuuuude, seriously?)

- DANCING to win over the ALPHA males respect.... (lol what)

Sorry man but he asked you to describe somewhat of a model or outline to your game, and you just got as far as describing what the toothless ex veteran creep in any RSL does on a friday night....

Not anywhere in that did you mention even MEETING a girl.

As far as you got was to this:

- get comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mind set. The better your mindset, the better your game.

(So what the fuck exactly is your game???)

Sure it might be hard for you to explain, but youre the one who started this thread!! The answer you just gave was..... lol....

I posted my take on Skilladdict911 after reading his advices to others and not just based on one particular style though I think the university/college advise was good.

There is a difference between working a room and scoping around in the room.

I don't know Gambler's method but w/o hijacking the thread I'll try to get to this in short - the rituals that the OP suggests is fine but not congruent with the results that he is suggesting. With practice one gets better with ones techniques and the amount of time executing it shortens (You tend to cut out all the BS steps that you do when you initially started with)

Skilladdict911 waits for 30-60 mins observing, unless 'game presents itself', do laps around the club and all those additional steps. Anyone who has been at bars/clubs or social gatherings will tell you right off the bat the things that could get you results and get you there quickly.

His way is fine, but long ended, slow not likely a method that would be used by someone who has slept with multiple women night after night. Anyone who has been successful at bars and clubs would discount the waiting around for 'game to present itself' and additional steps that the OP suggests.

As for scoring, you don't need to work the room for that, neither do you have to act and be social - all that is done by one to make oneself comfortable at the venue, or entertain oneself by talking to a lot of people or to reduce the risk of rejection. For sex you need to trigger a set of emotions - you want to score Go start a banter right off with a girl or have an argument and be willing to stick with it.


Again at SkillsAddict911 - your advises are not bad, don't be discouraged. Its just that your communication style and method is not congruent with someone highly successful with women - And there is nothing wrong with that. You for sure know quite a few things about being a social person and even if you get some of these guys to understand a few things that would get their foot in the door.[/b]

Just a couple thoughts...

@Marc

I'm not trying to defend SexAddict911, but I know a guy that has been with around 200 chicks and he gets pissed off pretty damn easy. To be honest, he lets other control his emotional state a fucking lot.

The PU community is always preaching you have to have some calm, clear mind and not allow yourself to be affected by other people emotionally in a negative way. Thats all fine and dandy but its not needed to fuck lots of women.

@SexAddict911

I wonder, how many times do you go clubbing a week?

To me it seems like you pay a lot of money when you go out. You pay the club cover, then you tip the bar tender 10 - 15 bucks at both the beginning and the end of the end of the night, and you spend money on the drinks in between.