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Any alpha things I can do tonight whilst I'm with her to boost her attraction levels?


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mack.. yesterday i was passing by a fastfood restaurant.. i never eat fastood.. so i got into the drive way and this chick was trying to get my order... but i didn't knew what menu to order.. a supersize big mac menu or a big tasty menu...i felt anxiety coming up.. i was paralyzed.. my heart trusting blood in my troath - i couldn't breath..

i just drove away as fast as i could .. i feel like a failure and like i cannot achieve anything in life..

what should i do ?

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That response was awesome. It's a Shame the guy still doesn't get it...[/quote]

Its not that I dont get it. But its much tougher to say youre gona do this or that, or act this way or that way, and then actually DO IT.

going into the relationship i had the exact mentality that mack is outlining.
but of course 6 months in, feelings come into play, yadda yadda bla bla bla.

but its a good wake up call. a good reminder. I gotta seriously knock her down a few rungs on my priority ladder. I have unconsciously placed her on the 2nd highest rung behind my health.

for me it should be

1)health
2)money/career
3)family/friends (which kind of includes girlfriend)
4)hobbies/passions (intertwined with 4)
4)girlfriend


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mack.. yesterday i was passing by a fastfood restaurant.. i never eat fastood.. so i got into the drive way and this chick was trying to get my order... but i didn't knew what menu to order.. a supersize big mac menu or a big tasty menu...i felt anxiety coming up.. i was paralyzed.. my heart trusting blood in my troath - i couldn't breath..

i just drove away as fast as i could .. i feel like a failure and like i cannot achieve anything in life..

what should i do ?
push pull bro


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im not talking about the woman... i couldn't make a descision about what to eat.. i feel confused

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Ok So i've had 4 dates with this girl I'm seeing. We used to be bf gf in school in the early days and she left and we lost contact until years later (now) she randomly added me on fb.

We met up and have had a few dates where we were both still nervous as we were back in the day.

Present day:
At first I was being Alpha and stuff right up until I asked her out (as in bf gf) one night when we were drunk, she said yes cos she was also drunk. The next day we decided not to be bf gf and to still date and that it was too soon, which I initiated also.

Now, I'm still tryna figure out who she is what she likes and doesn't like so I've bein trying different negs, some worked some didn't. I think I have created a small bit of negative compliance. Also I may have temporarily turned AFC when we were drunk on some occassions. I really can't remember.

We're still in contact and have chatted about me negging her when drunk on one particular time which made her feel bad. I explained I was still tryna figure her out and didn't mean to make her feel bad.

Also on the 2nd and 3rd date she was going on about how much she wants me aka sex. We almost did have sex only that we were too drunk one of the times and it was like 6.30am and 2nd time I had no money with me for a hotel.

Now since that I have gotten negative compliance as mentioned above and its turning into an "im not so easy to get into bed" attitude from her because of this.

We've arranged to do things that don't involve alcohol on the basis that we should just try different things for dates (to keep it fresh, the reason wasn't specifically alcohol, we will drink again together at some stage, if it lasts)

Now, the longest we'd go without texting is a whole day and would text the next. Tonight we sent one or 2 texts and she told me she was sick and hopes to be better for the weekend (aka our date.) She followed that with a "ttyl."

Regardless of if this was an IOD or she's genuinely not in the mood of talking cos of sickness, how do I gain positive compliance after getting negative compliance?


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for me it should be

1)health
2)money/career
3)family/friends (which kind of includes girlfriend)
4)hobbies/passions (intertwined with 4)
4)girlfriend
did you intentionally or subconsciously put your girlfriend as a second #4?

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Mr. Mack I do have a question it's not really a big problem (or is it?) So been with a girl for a lil while now almost five months but this is no normal relationship, we clicked right away and have spent almost every day together since the beginning. She is a pure commitment type of girl, I know for a fact I never have to worry about her thinking about some other guy or cheating or anything. We fought a lot for the first couple months mostly due to stuff like my ex being in my past and having certain friends around that I've been intimate with and have tons of history with and made a pact to have a kid in the future etc.

The fighting has now stopped since we've become official a few months ago, we both love each other enjoy each others company etc to everyone we seem like the perfect couple. The problem is when we were fighting I felt more of a rush of emotions and now I feel kinda flat as though I need to feel the pain of fighting with her (emotional not physical lol.) She does have a kid which prevents us from going out too much but then again over the years I haven't really cared or enjoyed going to clubs or bars or anything like that. So I ask what is it that's going on here we're really happy together she says I'm pretty much like out of a romance movie and we have sex A LOT so why am I not feeling anything, it did start before we met just to a different degree. I have heard of seasonal depression, could this possibly be what's affecting me cause in the summer I was far more energetic.
the good news: you are introspective and wise enough to realize this feature of your personality. and by that, i mean your tendency to crave drama.

the bad news: you are not yet emotionally or spiritually mature enough to understand "why" you have this personality feature.

let me first put your mind to rest on one thing. you don't necessarily have an affinity so for drama, so much as you might have an aversion (or anxiety) of normalcy...

normalcy with all of its implications and nuances.

take water for instance. it always takes the path of least resistance. always. to create drama, is to create an emotional spike. it also is a distraction from the realities around us. distractions can be tempting and comforting.

i've read some of what you have written on this website, you aren't a stupid dude. you seem relatively thoughtful. that is good. because it means that you can GROW emotionally and spiritually. work on that.

you are suffering from anxiety about your station in life and the path you are on. so you choose the path of least resistance, which is to create emotional spikes and distractions from the realities of normalcy.

what are you hiding from? is your path in life clear to you? are you a happy person? be truthful about this, especially with yourself.

stop taking the path of least resistance and take a path of enlightenment. remember, a woman is to be your companion on YOUR path. if you have no path, instinctively you will feel internal anxieties and uneasiness. and your subconscious mind will make things (drama, distractions, etc) manifest in your environment so you don't have to focus on what you should be and to make you feel better about your chosen path (of least resistance).

i'm being serious with this response to. because, it sounds like you've got a great girl. hell, as close to a "perfect" girl as can exist, and yet for some reason you are (what i sense to be) "uneasy" when things go smooth. that is clearly anxiety. and that is not manifesting from your relationship. that is manifesting from you.

the answer is to work on YOU.

dig deep. put the distractions aside. put the relationship aside (for a few minutes) and consider this.

you are seeking to draw energy from your environment. you are seeking happiness from an outside source. this creates imbalance. you need to BE happy and consoled internally, so that you can project energy INTO your environment.

be a lighthouse, not the darkness. and she will be drawn to you.

are you on your path?

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Any alpha things I can do tonight whilst I'm with her to boost her attraction levels?
this really isn't a relationship question, so much as it is a pua methodology question. i'm still learning to be a pua. i'm more of an enlightened/reformed afc. my forte is in advising guys on how "not" to be an afc.

too many guys come to this forum and attempt to make the leap from afc to pua, whilst missing that critical and fundamental step in between. RAFC (reformed afc).

this is evident because people ask questions like "how can i act so she will like me?" while they claim to be sarging. i'm here to tell you, a pua doesn't "act". a pua "is".

that transformation is the RAFC step.

too many are jumping to pua without really understanding and reforming their core issues that give them afc tendencies.

the leap to becoming a better person is not just a choice. it is a work in progress. it takes dedication, understanding, INTROSPECTION, and commitment.

so, long story short, lol, check with one of the bona fide pua's on the forum. i'm not one...yet.

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mack.. yesterday i was passing by a fastfood restaurant.. i never eat fastood.. so i got into the drive way and this chick was trying to get my order... but i didn't knew what menu to order.. a supersize big mac menu or a big tasty menu...i felt anxiety coming up.. i was paralyzed.. my heart trusting blood in my troath - i couldn't breath..

i just drove away as fast as i could .. i feel like a failure and like i cannot achieve anything in life..

what should i do ?
you are a crazy motherfucker.

brilliant.

but crazy nonetheless.

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mack.. yesterday i was passing by a fastfood restaurant.. i never eat fastood.. so i got into the drive way and this chick was trying to get my order... but i didn't knew what menu to order.. a supersize big mac menu or a big tasty menu...i felt anxiety coming up.. i was paralyzed.. my heart trusting blood in my troath - i couldn't breath..

i just drove away as fast as i could .. i feel like a failure and like i cannot achieve anything in life..

what should i do ?
push pull bro
lmao!

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im not talking about the woman... i couldn't make a descision about what to eat.. i feel confused
hahaha!

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Ok So i've had 4 dates with this girl I'm seeing. We used to be bf gf in school in the early days and she left and we lost contact until years later (now) she randomly added me on fb.

We met up and have had a few dates where we were both still nervous as we were back in the day.

Present day:
At first I was being Alpha and stuff right up until I asked her out (as in bf gf) one night when we were drunk, she said yes cos she was also drunk. The next day we decided not to be bf gf and to still date and that it was too soon, which I initiated also.

Now, I'm still tryna figure out who she is what she likes and doesn't like so I've bein trying different negs, some worked some didn't. I think I have created a small bit of negative compliance. Also I may have temporarily turned AFC when we were drunk on some occassions. I really can't remember.

We're still in contact and have chatted about me negging her when drunk on one particular time which made her feel bad. I explained I was still tryna figure her out and didn't mean to make her feel bad.

Also on the 2nd and 3rd date she was going on about how much she wants me aka sex. We almost did have sex only that we were too drunk one of the times and it was like 6.30am and 2nd time I had no money with me for a hotel.

Now since that I have gotten negative compliance as mentioned above and its turning into an "im not so easy to get into bed" attitude from her because of this.

We've arranged to do things that don't involve alcohol on the basis that we should just try different things for dates (to keep it fresh, the reason wasn't specifically alcohol, we will drink again together at some stage, if it lasts)

Now, the longest we'd go without texting is a whole day and would text the next. Tonight we sent one or 2 texts and she told me she was sick and hopes to be better for the weekend (aka our date.) She followed that with a "ttyl."

Regardless of if this was an IOD or she's genuinely not in the mood of talking cos of sickness, how do I gain positive compliance after getting negative compliance?
you are asking the wrong questions.

the answer lies in one statement you made:

Also I may have temporarily turned AFC when we were drunk on some occassions
.

^ there it is ^

you don't temporarily "turn" AFC and then "turn" PUA.

you've are putting the cart way ahead of the horse.

this is yet another example of talking the talk, but not walking the walk.

you have serious inner-game issues that demand your focus.

some of these are likely due to your age.

while you are focusing on techniques and negs and compliance and ioi's,

you are struggling with "turning afc"?

how can you perfect pua methods, if you don't feel like a pua inside? all the time?

you need to work on your inner game.

also, game other girls.

you are too young to be serious.

period.

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for me it should be

1)health
2)money/career
3)family/friends (which kind of includes girlfriend)
4)hobbies/passions (intertwined with 4)
4)girlfriend
did you intentionally or subconsciously put your girlfriend as a second #4?
oops lol.

shes got to me clearly..

1)health
2)money/career
3)family/friends
4)hobbies/passions (intertwined with 3)
5)girlfriend


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oops lol.

shes got to me clearly..

1)health
2)money/career
3)family/friends
4)hobbies/passions (intertwined with 3)
5)girlfriend
lol, juan.

it was funny though, you've gotta admit.

i know i have busted your balls about this situation.

but you need to hear it.

juan, copy and paste that list from above ^ 1-5

blow it up, print it out, put it on your wall (preferably somewhere that she will not see!!!)

and read it every morning when you get up and every night when you go to bed.

when you read it in the morning, say out loud to yourself?

- What am I going to do to improve my career/hobbies/passions/path in life today?

when you read it at night, say out loud to yourself?

- What did I do to improve my career/hobbies/passions/path in life today?

if you start having answers to those questions, you are finally making progress.

if not, you are faking it, bro.

you can't fake it.

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