Hey, just had a quick question. This is my profile for POF. Advice?

" Alright... idk if you should be reading this or not, you might be scared away. If you're a nice girl you want to stear clear . Description of what is now myself... hm... I know, how about you just ask ok?

You get to ask and I get to answer, and then I get to 1 up you and ask a better question. a more interesting question , lol.

But **** the questions for a bit and lets go with some straight up flirting. After I decide ur more than just a pretty face Beauty is a common thing but what do u have to offer on the inside that makes you different? I look forward to finding out!

I save lives, I work for the top position no matter what, when my friends are in trouble there's nothing but a quick "you've got it bro, I've got your back." I aim for the highest and not every girl fits my checklist. Just going to say it out loud, lol. You may not be the right girl for me. But hey, you may be. May be a good friend, too. Never know. Talk to you in a bit, ok? But not if you don't cross that bridge. So send me a "hey" ok? okay.

P.S.... I've been looking for a dance partner for more than the classics. Maybe you're a good dancer? "

Anybody's advice would really help, I've been putting a lot of time into working on online/text game as it's one of my sticking points.. Good/Bad/Awesome? lol

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There isn't much you can do to your colleague that I would recommend. Keep texting her and building rapport and you never know you might just win this one out. Besides you got skills he doesn't have. If it doesn't work out for this one...NEXT!

One last thing be careful with negging online cause a lot of the times its taken the wrong way and you'll offend a lot of women with it. Generally, I tell guys not to neg to just tease very lightly and over nothing on their physical appearance.

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Well good job on keeping your profile short. There is a fine line between arrogant and confident and you went way way way past the line into arrogance. Typically women aren't going to respond as well as they could to a profile like this. It's perfectly fine to say things like. "I'm the guy your mother warned you about..." or stuff like that but you went over the top here.

You really should put a few lines in there about the type of girl you are after.

Two other HUGE things on POF is your photos and your headline. You want multiple photos of you out doing the things you enjoy showing your full body not just head shots or cropped photos. And secondly you are going to want a catchy headline.

Mine right now is, "I'm kind of a @$$hole..." and it works pretty well for me right now, but I'll change it after a while.

Try to rewrite this and go for not as cocky!

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Hahaha, appreciate it bro. I'll repost new one once it's up

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Thoughts and styles?

"Idk if you should be reading this or not, you might be scared away.... BUT for those of you who want to be swept up in adventure, and not the pinnacle of it, read on ok?

I save lives, I work for the top position no matter what, when my friends are in trouble there's nothing but a quick "you've got it bro, I've got your back." I aim for the highest and not every girl fits my checklist. Just going to say it out loud, lol. You may not be the right girl for me. But hey, you may be. May be a good friend, too. You never know. Talk to you in a bit, ok? But not if you don't cross that bridge. So send me a "hey" ok? Alright, lol.

I'm looking for a girl who loves out of the ordinary things. Like actually keeping up with her health. Running, jogging, working out. Yoga. Positive endorphin building excercises. Good social life but also has an inner dork to them, and lets it show every once in a while, hahaha. Intelligence is a plus too. Book-reading, positive in studies, someone who has goals in there life, you know? That sort of person "

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Much better!

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Just wanted to share this with you guys...

"Hey Jon,

How have you been my friend? I just wanted to thank you for everything. I met the girl of my dreams two years ago (a la Match.com) using some of the skills you taught me and I got married last month.

Thanks,

Matt"

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I have a question for Jsmooth and any other very experienced guys. I consider myself a fairly successful internet dater so the answer to my 2 questions are not going to be obvious to the newer guys, as if they were I would have figured them out

question #1

I often get a post-date, same night text after an ok date. By Ok date I mean some attraction but no f-close, or obvious great compatibility. But not a shitty, short no interest date either. In other words something around the majority of dates.

So the text is normally something like "I had a great time tonight, thank you!"

Now when I knew a lot less I took this as a good sign. Over time I realize there isn't a positive correlation between this type of text and my ability to get a second date or f-close.

I used to respond with "Me too, thanks" but that of course is incorrect as im buying into her frame and letting her lead.

Ive recently used ":-)" (ambiguous kinda like the MM "respect" thing) and no response for a couple days which I think is a much better response.

My question is, I know experienced guys get these same texts and I want to know how they deal with them considering these kinda average dates. Some advice based on experience would be appreciated.

Ok ill ask question 2 later which is more advanced and longwinded, i'm getting fatigued now.

There are some things in PUA that I completely disagree with, and there are others that I have found some truth in. In the 4 years I've been out there working on this stuff and teaching it I've found certain things work better than others as you have.

First of, I think you are overthinking the response to her message. You aren't buying into her frame you are simply being polite and agreeing with her that you had a good evening as well. This does nothing to lower your value or screw up the frame with her. She thanked you first, it doesn't hurt to reciprocate those feelings.

Secondly, I'm not a fan of the wait to call or text someone. Waiting 2 days a lot of time has the opposite effect as messaging someone the next day. Let me explain my reasoning on this. She goes out with you and she has a great time. She's in a great mood because of it. She texts you she had a good time. You send her a message saying the same or a smiley back...

The next day she's still thinking about the good time she had with you, and is probably curious when you two are hanging out again. The iron is still pretty hot to strike it and get things heated up again.

The day after that she's starting to wonder why she hasn't heard from you yet but is still hoping she talks to you soon. Still not a bad time to message but not as good as the next day.

The 3rd day...she's starting to write you off.... Things are starting to go stale.

In the day in age we live with that includes instant gratifaction in all kinds of forms men and women are naturally wired to respond to it. So when you call or text her on the next day she buys into it and is happy again.

Just my 2 cents... Look forward to question 2.

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Ok good advice, the only thing I would iterate and emphasis, is that this text thing im saying is specifically related to a mediocre/OK date. Like not a great date, not a bad date. So if shes into me its a close call, or if shes not she still thinks i'm cool. Thats why I thought it may take some better "game" where as a chick that like you well enough takes very little gaming.

Take it at face value and try to proceed with things as normal.

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Can you please give some tips Jon, on how to be more creative with giving compliments with online game.

Like with one example for now, say I'm messaging a lady who's in her late 30s or 40s and through either genetics and/or the lady looking after herself physically, she looks much younger than her age and I wanted to give a compliment (either in the subject line, or in the message) about that, that'd be more original than what most AFC guys would say.

Honestly, if you aren't good at writing good compliments or coming up with them you can always look them up. I might say something like, "You are the most attractive woman of you age that I have seen, what do you to to stay looking so young?" something like that.... It depends on the way her profile is written really as to what I'll say exactly....just a part of my own microcalibration.

Compliment Do's - http://www.squidoo.com/best-compliments ... le34120672

Compliment Don't's- http://www.squidoo.com/best-compliments ... le34134942

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Hey fellas. Messaging LOTS of HB8s and HB9s, and trying to be fun, playful, teasing, etc, but most ignore, others look at my profile and dont respond.
here's a sample of some of what I sent

22 yr. HB8 posing over a drainage hole

"Aha, so THAT'S where you kept the stash from your bank robbery, it's in that
drainage hole you're hovering over, I can see one of the hundred dollar bills from
here.
dont sweat it bro, your secrets safe with me, just be more careful about where you
pose for the camera, those stacks of bills dont hide easily, haha.
how's it going?"

21 yr. HB9 with a pic of a Buddha statue

"what's with that Buddha statue, you aint peaceful.
how do I know?
You emptied that glass of wine you've got on someone's face last night, I can tell
from the way you're holding your cup. I've never seen someone look more ready to empty their wine glass on someone's head.
what's it gunna take to get you not waste a perfectly good bottle of wine on
someone's face. put a buddhist monk in [your] glove compartment?"

24 yr. old HB9 posing in a pink bikini at the beach

"Hey, I know who you are, you're that woman who busts out the scuba gear, cards and whiskey every weekend and plays a round of poker with underwater wildlife. You won that pink bikini off a shark in a poker game last week didnt you? I heard through the rumour mill that the dude put it on the betting table cause his wife got too fat for it. seems to fit you pretty well, how long are you gunna hang onto it?"


what do you think about that particular style of message. funny and creative enough? Got a few HB8s to laugh and respond, but most ignore.

Well sir before I make a judgement call on this what website are you on? Is this on a social networking site like Facebook, or on a dating site like Plenty of Fish?

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