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Hey Dexter/Khuram - all valid points. Let me respond to them...

I'm saying this because you have included very few details on how exactly you managed to pull off this SNL.

I included very few details because I only used very few principles. As I mentioned before the key to good game is simplification not complication.

If you were to hear a Jimmi Hendrix song which blew you away, and ask him how he sung it, he wouldnt tell you "I held string A, then string B, strummed with my right hand, whilst transitioning my left hand from string B to C, then transitioning to D etc et etc" He would simply tell you he felt the music and went with it.

Guys that get into game, end up tying themselves in knots, assiduously learning more and more theory, exasperating an interaction into sequential conscious steps. This only makes life more and more difficult for yourselves. If you want to be become good with women, in the same way Jimmi Hendrix wrotes brilliant music, you have to stop being the student and be the musician.

In my report, I am not running material, nor am I stacking one routine/technique onto another. Infact quite the opposite i focus on maybe 3 key principles and block out any strategic methodoloy that may enter my head.

This strategic mindset, works against your success with women, (although pua companies wont tell you that)

The pua lingo/descriptions exacerbate simple unconscious processes into difficult conscious processes.
For e.g I asked one of my clients to get me a beer from behind the bar.
as he was walking off I said “Ive changed my mind, can you approach the bar, work around the obstacles, lock in, wait till you get a IOA (an indicator of availability from the barman), open him with a statement of intent to buy, then transition into the order, and close. As he started to panic i said ‘OR you can just get me a beer!’

Now think about your interactions with women, you can either take these strategic steps, or you can ‘just get chatting’. It is the people that can transcend Pick up are the ones that will be in the moment with women.

Khuram - All game is hit and miss. There is not a PUA in the land that gets 100%. Infact, whereas PUA teaches you that no matter how ugly you are and no matter how crap your lifestyle is, you can still get the HB10 - I actually disagree vehemently. No matter how good your game is, if you are the elephant man you are going home alone. Every man including myself is fallible and i embrace that i don't resist that. I would happily post up reports where i don't get the girl but would you read it?

Dexter - One of the other coaches i worked with actually has the infield video of me approaching and chatting to the girl. I will upload to my blog soon. The reason i cant tell you exactly what happened, is because during the interaction i was totally in the moment and not running routines - I am not entirely sure what i did other than maintain the key prinicples which i mentioned - LEADING, INTENT, PLAYFULNESS. I was totally present with the girl. Which means any analysis of what i did has to be done as a way of post rationalistion.

LEARN THE INSTRUMENT, LEARN THE MUSIC, THEN FORGET ALL THAT AND JUST PLAY

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if you are trying to praise him, i have got nothing to do with that. There is no 100%. But there is a scientific way to explain things. There are things discovered by research. And i believe in that. I believe in science and explaining the stuff in a way that anyone can understand. Now i would again say that he is getting lucky. Say him to post his failed approach videos and then compare them to successful approaches, you would know what i am saying here. Have you ever heard of 'phenomenal kid' (associated with brad p)that guy is the fastest at pulling girls. All he does is scane for horny girls and follows them to the bathroom and rest of the process is damn ridiculous. Is that game? brad p. stopped teaching this kind of game saying its not game at all.
That is so fucked up. Scanning for horny girls isn't game? Are you serious? What the hell IS game then? That kind of mindset reminds me of the sad dudes who will ignore a girl who's rubbing up against them, giving them every bloody IOI in the world, just because it hasn't been 7 hours yet and they're not following the Mystery Method to a T. If you want a horny girl, you scan for her! Just like if you want an Asian girl, you scan for her. Sheesh.

I guess you're going to say that true "game" is cold approaching unreceptive supposedly HB10 women and getting them into bed according to some douchey master's rulebook. Imagine all the poor virginal guys out there who can't have fun, who can't discover their own style, or write their own story, because they're so busy trying to conform to some "scientific" Bible of (to be honest) laughably irrelevant pick-up details.

This is a big difference I see between some of the US and UK scenes and the scene in Melbourne - you guys are so bloody uptight and angry all the time, and it comes off in your mindsets! This doesn't have to be hard. You don't have to place the "achievement" of sleeping with a certain number of physically hot women above just having fun. Girls will sense that, and they'll run away from you. I mean, it shouldn't matter if Brad P is teaching it or not - if you want to sleep with all the easy girls, you should just do it!


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if you are trying to praise him, i have got nothing to do with that. There is no 100%. But there is a scientific way to explain things. There are things discovered by research. And i believe in that. I believe in science and explaining the stuff in a way that anyone can understand. Now i would again say that he is getting lucky. Say him to post his failed approach videos and then compare them to successful approaches, you would know what i am saying here. Have you ever heard of 'phenomenal kid' (associated with brad p)that guy is the fastest at pulling girls. All he does is scane for horny girls and follows them to the bathroom and rest of the process is damn ridiculous. Is that game? brad p. stopped teaching this kind of game saying its not game at all.
That is so fucked up. Scanning for horny girls isn't game? Are you serious? What the hell IS game then? That kind of mindset reminds me of the sad dudes who will ignore a girl who's rubbing up against them, giving them every bloody IOI in the world, just because it hasn't been 7 hours yet and they're not following the Mystery Method to a T. If you want a horny girl, you scan for her! Just like if you want an Asian girl, you scan for her. Sheesh.

I guess you're going to say that true "game" is cold approaching unreceptive supposedly HB10 women and getting them into bed according to some douchey master's rulebook. Imagine all the poor virginal guys out there who can't have fun, who can't discover their own style, or write their own story, because they're so busy trying to conform to some "scientific" Bible of (to be honest) laughably irrelevant pick-up details.

This is a big difference I see between some of the US and UK scenes and the scene in Melbourne - you guys are so bloody uptight and angry all the time, and it comes off in your mindsets! This doesn't have to be hard. You don't have to place the "achievement" of sleeping with a certain number of physically hot women above just having fun. Girls will sense that, and they'll run away from you. I mean, it shouldn't matter if Brad P is teaching it or not - if you want to sleep with all the easy girls, you should just do it!
+1 amazingly said.

although i wouldn't say it's a US/UK vs melbourne thing. maybe the coaches in melbourne have much better coaching models and a more natural game style, but there are still coaches who are into natural game in UK/US, although they are more underground.

but yeah i still know of guys in melbourne running 'game' that is from the mindset of trying to 'win' and 'trick hot girls who you don't deserve into thinking they're attracted to you so they'll need you validation and sleep with you' which is essentially what mystery method is, maybe not theory wise but from what ive observed of guys who are out there trying it, 99% of pua's doing that have that intent when they use mystery method. that whole mindset is so backwards because on some level you feel you don't really deserve the girls and they can sense that. which is why MM has such a huge drop out/failure rate when guys don't see much progress or results.

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also pickup is not a science. belief change and personal growth can be mapped out in general principles and you can be guided to become more sexual and confident but social interactions or seductions cannot be mapped in a way that is actually USEFUL for picking up girls or becoming more charismatic in real life.

i would know, i did mystery method for a year and i actually got worse. once i started getting out of my head and enjoying the process, my results skyrocketed.

the further you go into the science, the further you put yourself into your head, away from the moment, losing your ability to actually feel the girls energy, sense her body language, and most importantly relax around her and not put on a fake see-through socially incongruent mask.

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guys you are ridiculous and so narrow minded. Khuram said that he takes pick up as a science and focuses more onto things that are proven by research. And that is much better than jerking off on horny girls.
And you think that this is Game, cool but brad p thinks its not game at all. Are you better than brad p? Look, its not about right or wrong, its about personel choices and personel believes. He doesnt think "scan for horny girls" as game, cool. You think its game, thats cool too. You may want to go for a horny girl but he likes to spend a bit time with the target getting to know the target whether she is worth him or not?
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and if you failed with mystery method then that my friend is your fault, you were not socially calibrated enough to know what adjustments to make and when to use or drop a technique. and pick up is ofcourse a science, social dynamics and being prepared definately helps you a lot. an example would be
you ask a girl,'can i ask you a quick question?' now you can predict her response, she is either gonna say yes or no, or she may walk away without a response or finally she may ask why you want to ask her? So if you are already prepared and know how you gonna handle them then its not only gonna increase your success rate but also results. And repeating a social behaviour so many times that it become a part of who you are, that it becomes your default response to a certain situation means that you have become a master pick up artist. I am rather hurt to see that you guys are running sites but your information about pick up sucks. Its really a bad feeling. May GOD SHOW YOU THE TRUTH
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and if you failed with mystery method then that my friend is your fault, you were not socially calibrated enough to know what adjustments to make and when to use or drop a technique.
yeah, and neither are most guys who join the community. guys don't come to the community because they have amazing social calibration, they come because they are shy, nervous, not sure what to say around girls, need guidance in how to relax and get used to the process of meeting women.

the paradox is that if you already have the social calibration to use MM ...then you don't need to use it.

my point is that it is not an effective tool for anyone wanting to improve their confidence socially and sexually. it just bogs you down with too much useless and irrelevant information and creates retarded minsets like 'i need to have a really cool opener to impress this women' this is bullshit, your delivery of your opener even it its 'hello' is what makes the difference, not the line.

or 'i need to tell her stories to show how cool i am.' this is bullshit, you need to become relaxed and cool, and every time you tell a DHV story you are telling your inner game 'i am really a poser, i am a loser who isn't actually cool but if i tell them this story they will think i am and it will 'trigger' their attraction'. not a very powerful inner game to be running, it just rots your self esteem at the core and makes you worse, and women you meet can sense it. for any guys who have been trying routines for a while and struggling...this is why you're not getting results or improving.

out of interest mad.genius, how has mystery method worked for you? how many girls have you fucked using it? have you managed to create any lasting relationships from it? you speak from a place of authority so i;m curious what your personal success with it is. most guys who actually have game and get laid realize that MM is useless because you get to a point where you can drop the theory and realize it's pointless.

because for 99% of guys that i have met or coached through the community, the answer is that MM has done nothing to help them or sometimes made it worse.

im not saying that it doesnt work....but...it doesn't work. as a personal development tool. for 99% of guys who try it, because they lack the social calibration to use it properly.

btw im not trying to convince you about any of this you've clearly made up your mind, this is for anyone else reading who's unsure what method to try and wants to hear about the limitations of MM. i wish someone had told me what a crock of shit MM was back in the day and given me this guidance. then again it's good to have experienced it because it makes me a better coach with a wider understanding of what works and what doesnt in terms of personal change and lasting results.

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first of all, i do not abide by any certain method. I am a guy who takes everything he gets and puts all that into practice taking notes of what worked and disregarding what did not work.
Now the mm, does that works? Yup, that does work for many guys, even on this forum are guys following mm with decent success. Are their holes in the method? Yes there are. But can that method get a guy laid? Yes it can. Can you break mm rules and still get laid? Ofcourse, you can. Khuram pointed out the flaws of the mm in a post on this forum and i agree to them. Personally, i was able to get laid by mm in the initiall stages of my game. Later on, i teamed up with khuram and thats where my game and gaming style changed.
As for as getting laid is concerned, i can get laid on regular basic, we even did an online coaching session a few days back. Right now, i just want to help guys and further refine my game. I am looking for a masters platform to share my ideas and further come up with more better stuff. But unfortunately, i cant seem to find a place where the level of the puas is much higher

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Liam, you just opened the labyrinth I was trapped in with your post. Thank You


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Liam, you just opened the labyrinth I was trapped in with your post. Thank You
that is so fucking awesome to hear! as i was writing that post i was thinking 'i hope at least one guy reads this and realizes where he's going wrong.'

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I'm pretty sure I saw in the thread where Khuram got banned, that him and mad.genius are the same person.... just saying.

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it's quite obvious Khuram and mad.genius are the same person - the spelling and grammatical errors are exactly the same in both texts. BUSTED!

Pretty sad how a guy has to back up his own comments pretending to be someone else!

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lol cooper. Grow up. Look at what you posted

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...man you have a 3rd account now! wowsers!

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...man you have a 3rd account now! wowsers!
looks like that guy fucked your brains out. Feel free to check my ip or howsoever you or anyone wants to be sure

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