First Field Report:

Went out tonight for the first time, armed with my openers and what i hope is a readjusted my AA(Awful Anxiety or whatever)factor into an AE(amazing excitement).

This seemed to be a serious breakthrough for me. I was instantly more myself when i changed the way i look at that initial nervous energy. By calling it Excitement rather than Anxiety, I was in such a better place, mentally, when I entered the club.

Actually, not a lot happened tonight but I had a blast with two complete strangers that were really fun! I got two phone numbers and got 3 free drinks from a bartender! sure, neither guy is fuck-able but they are super nice and I've already got plans to go out clubbing with them on Sunday. Already, instead of just sitting in alone I was able to get out, have a great time and meet some new people.

So. What happened. First, I got there too early, 10pm. The place had just opened, only two other customers and the bartender. I opened the bartender with "My Little Ponies" just for practice and got instant rapport, he loved my little ponies, of course he did! I chatted with him, found out stuff about him, he poured me a shot on the house. After a while, I introduced myself to two-set down the bar, Elive and Ringo.

So I opened them with a basic hey, hello, how are you and initiated conversation.
We chatted for a while and waited for a crowd to show up. Here I ran into my first problem. Because I was having good conversation and didn't want to loose that companionship, that social value, I didn't eject from the two-set...I settled and I stayed with them all night. Even when more people showed up. First night out, I played it cautious, but that's not what a PUA does, is it? but i cut myself some slack, said to myself "Shut up! Have some fun and try some of the shit you read about!!!" So I did.

I suggested that we move to a new club. They agreed and off we went. At the new club, I opened a go-go boy, a two set, and some other guy.

The Hired Gun: So I'm at the bar next to my friend and the gogo boy is behind me talking to his friend, on a sort of break. Over my shoulder I say, "Aren't you freezing?"
HG: Leans in "what"
Me: "aren't you freezing, i'm fucking cold and you're wearing like nothing"

HG:laughs, leans in over my shoulder to talk in my ear, "i'm hot, i've been dancing"
Me: I put my hand on his chest(Kino) like i'm checking for a fever and said "you're not that hot...i'm so cold i could chisel an ice sculpture with my nipples...(he laughed and put his arm around my shoulder) I could chisel you, but out of ice, blah, blah, blah." I kino'd again, running my hand down his stomach
HG: so are you a good tipper?
Me: Nahhh, I never tip, i'm way to pretty!
HG: laughs, "I'm Pedro, what's your name?"
Me: Me
HG: Nice to meet you.

and he went back to work.....so it was my first shot at a hired gun and I thought i'd just give it a shot. I'll never know if I don't ask right? Anyone see where I could have number closed? Or was he just working? Either way, I had fun and I never would have had the guts to talk to a VGL like him before. he was an easy VGL8

finally, the last two-set I opened by asking for a light. He didn't have one and proffered his cigarette to use instead.
Me: "oh wow, you're letting me buttfuck you right here on the street, what a slut" guy: laughs
and we started to chat. Then i use "my little ponies" then laid a false time constraint, the we chatted about some other shit and I ejected nice a clean. No number close but it was good solid, non-creepy banter with some good looking people. I didn't think i could do this but i did!

All in all a great night. And I didn't just drag myself to a club, hover around like a creep and go home alone, Hell No. I went out and met some new people and this is what it's all about, right? thanks all!

Sounds good man!

It's surprising but us hets wrongly think gay guys just go into a gay bar and instantly get laid! Pretty dumb isn't it? LOL. I have a few gay friends who are in the closet and I can see how difficult it is for them to one first accept their sexuality and two do something about it. It's good to see you're doing something about!

Glad to see you're working on your AA and taking action. Keep a game plan for each night and stick to it! You'll soon find yourself getting results.

Nice to hear The Game working for everyone alike.

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Are you kidding me?
Are you picking up other men?

I am confused

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NO, i'm not kidding.
YES, I'm picking up other men.

Gay means men who sleep with other men in a sexual fashion. That's what gay means and that's what gay guys do....

I'm sorry but then i think you're on the wrong forum?
This forum is about how to pickup women, correct me admins if i'm wrong.
'The Game' for a big part isn't compatible with men.

Please join another forum for picking up men, or at least request a special Gay section so i can know which section i do not have to visit, i don't want to see things in the genre of 'and i finally closed him, he sucked my cock, then i put my cock in his ass and felt his balls' in the Field Reports section. Since 99% of the people on this forum aren't gay, it would be pure disgusting.

I'm not going to judge you for being gay, but i hope you understand.

Thanks

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Now, now you shouldn't be like that.

As far as I remember, I've never seen a report quite the way you've described it.

Also, he did mention "Gay" very clearly in this topic header. You should pay a bit more attention to that.

Another thing, it's a free, free world. Maybe people are homophobic, actually quite a few still are, but it shouldn't affect our judgement when it comes to homosexual people and their efforts. Professionalism is still a quality. Learn about it.

Good day.

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This is BS, and I'm guessing this is gross assumption, probably like your views on homosexuality. People tend to make gross assumptions on things they don't understand or have little exposure to.
Again it is people with these passive aggressive opinions who actually are the most damaging to society. The point is the OP has no control over his sexual orientation.


Have you ever seen your best friend in torment, forced to marry a women he probably doesn't even love and have a child with her because society ridicules him for being gay? Well, I know a someone who did just that... And if it wasn't for those bigots he would probably be happy just being himself and living a lifestyle he chose.

To the OP. 'TheGame' is transferable. Don't worry about applying it to guys because the same switches exist for all of us. We are, after all human and responsive to emotional triggers. All you have to do if figure out what emotional triggers work best with your target audience.

Now Kasabi wrote a great post when another guy like yourself asked how to use the Game to help him, I'll see if I can dig it up.

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DonDraper and tweeby,

Thanks for your support!!!!

To egocentricfear: I understand where you are coming from. Props for being direct about your concerns but I don't really give a fuck. Most of my post will be in this thread, so feel free not to read it again.

Anyone looking for a wing in NYC, let me know. A gay dude on your arm is instant DHV with the ladies.

Gryffyn

i'm glad you don't give a fuck.
respect.

i'm just homophobic yes. when i hear gay around me i feel like being stared at and some dude fantasizing touching my dick. It grosses me out.
I know not every gay guy is fantasizing about me, but i can't do anything about it, gay creeps me out.


tweeby: Im going to get very direct on this point, this may sound very rude and actually really nazi-ish but i'm just trying to show you in a black/white manner perhaps why i don't like gay (unconscious or not).
Just like Mystery said people have two main goals in life, surviving and replicating. The evolutionary theory, you know..
If you don't replicate your genes will be whooped out of the gene pool for ever, no excuse. Trying to replicate with someone of you own sex will not make you able to replicate.
This is the base fact that i base gay is 'wrong'. Not 'wrong' in the sense of 'you are guilty' but 'wrong' in the sense of 'it doesn't work like that pal'
If everyone was gay from now one it would pretty much mean the end of the world, which would be a very sad fact.

If i was snapped to gay NOW this moment boom, i am gay, i would use my common sense to think about my purpose in life, yes that is replicating.
If i was gay now i would invest all my money in possible therapy, hypnosis or some special therapy to make me straight. I'm sure it's possible. I wouldn't want to live as a part of society that stops replication.

Again don't think i'm some kind of Adolf Hitler fan or something, i was really black and white in explaining my opinion.
I actually am very open minded and have much respect for the guys on this forum because i've never seen such an open mindedness among people than on this PUA forum, which is a very good thing.

The fact alone that Gryffyn says 'I understand where you are coming from.Props for being direct about your concerns' is something i really appreciate and makes Gryffyn for me a cool gay guy

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Went out again tonight. Turns out that the spanish salsa club down the block has a gay night every sunday. Mostly a dominican or black crowd....definitely not a hipster joint(ie i'm waaayyyy out of my comfortzone...Me to DJ, "what? no arcade fire?" DJ, "Que"

I wasn't feeling it but decided I need to open my mouth...Just get talking to people and maybe i'll be able to keep talking to people....so...

#1-5$ cover, no one in line behind me, VGL6 working the rope.

VGL-$5
ME- 5$, that's what I charge for a kiss
VGL-oh really
me-yup, but i have to go inside...see you later and maybe you'll get a kiss

inside, i introduced myself to the promoter, chatted him up and headed inside.

I walked into the club with my head up, chest out and what I hope was an easy smile. As I made my way through and around the club, got the lay of the land, I saw a few guys that were OBVIOUSLY there alone.....that's me I thought, FUCK!, that's me.....no social value at all....

I went to the bar just for something to do, to regroup.

Beer in hand, I waded into the crowd and spied a girl on a bench( sorry egofear, I don't convert on this one) and opened with my name.

I fluff talked about some shit and must have been charming. she grabbed my arm and dragged me to the bar to meet her friend. I now felt like I had some momentum, so i opened the 2set next to me. To be honest, I can't even remember how it went down...

So...from here on out I think i did some things right....and actually talked to some guys....

#1) I arrived alone, so as I created social value, I didn't waste it. After I met the two girls, I quickly opened the 2set directly over my shoulder, just how mystery says to do it. One of them was an easy VGL7 or so...the other guy was older.
I was sort of nervous so the whole interaction is a little blurry because I was still excited about just not being on the side lines and actually opening people.

It was a perfectly nice convo, found out they weren't together by saying, "you guys are sooo cute together, when are you getting married" they laughed and said they were just friends.... but i forgot to kino, i didn't lock-in, and at some point, just smiled, said thanks and bounced.

#2)on the dance floor with my 2 new friends. 3 set with 1 target. Both the target and his friend had their cell phones out. Over my shoulder I started shouting my number at him, he looked up, i smiled, he smiled, so i leaned in and said,
"you were asking for my phone number....444-444-" He is smiling "wait"...while he switches programs on his phone to get to the key pad..."okay, what was it" I give it to him.
"What's your name" I ask...I get his. I ask him to introduce me to his friends, which he did....but I blew it...didn't even engage with the target....true, it's probable that the VGL doesn't speak English, but really that's just a bull-shit excuse.

I should have used the number gambit on the target, he had his phone out...or I should have started a new thread, then tapped his phone and said, "hey, pay attention"


and finally

#3) Giant failure....over the shoulder,

Me: I don't know if that shirt is working for you
VGL6: what????!!!
Me: yeah, I don't know if black and white plaid thing is working for you....

and it all went wrong...I guess neg came out as totally harsh or at least, he thought so, he practically cried on the dance floor. however, this lead me to my first experience in controlling the frame.....

So I'm leaving with Christine, headed home after a fun night. We are out on the street and i'm talking with the promoter when uglyshirt comes down. for whatever reason, I re-engage with this person, mostly, i was gonna try and compliment him. Remember, I opened him because I thought he was cute. Big mistake. Next time I'll leave a blow-out alone.

So i've got uglyshrit flinging shit at me now, but i'm deflecting his negative energy, I turn to him and say "I was trying to hit on you, but it came out wrong, my bad"; i'm acting cool in the face of his bitch-attack. At that moment, the 3 set i had opened with left the club....Frankie, the guy i #closed and his two friends were also friends with the promoter.....I'm all, "by Frankie" and we're all exchanging hugs and I get come comps to party later on in the week....meanwhile uglyshirt is still fucking yapping at me....until the bouncer told him to please step back.....

By controlling the frame,

1) even though I insulted this guy, he's the one that looks like an asshole
2) being calm and collected, I looked like a good guy, never let your anger get the better of you
3) I don't know what, I still have a lot more to learn about controlling how I frame my own world, let alone affecting the frame of others....oh, yeah, if you are cool in the face of danger(or at least an enraged queen), people will invite you to their parties!!!

Thoughts anyone?

I hate to sound ignorant too. It's interesting to see a new perspective, but isnt the whole thing of PUA and Game to be about picking up GIRLS?

Shit man, you're ruining something very sacred...

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Just by looking at some responses in here, you see a direct difference in how narrow minded some people are towards sexual preferences.

I'm glad that you are comfortable with being Gay Gryffyn, if that's the choice for you, good! Don't let anybody else tell you different.

Regarding to PU concering male targets, I believe PU in general is rather somewhat the same as women. However, male targets likely get pretty spooked when they hear they are being chased by another man. Maybe.. caution is a good way?

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Hey nice Griffyn.

Enjoyed reading the reports. Thanks for sharing. Keep on going

I look forward to hearing of future adventures.

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Hey man good for you. If straight men as well as straight, bisexual, and lesbian women are allowed to discuss their experiences and opinions, I don't see why the community shouldn't be open to gay and bisexual men. And if the evolutionary argument against homosexuality "procreation, two keys no lock blah blah" is true then I guess women and men with fertility issues should just give up on relationships and focus on getting their relatives laid since everything is about passing on genes.

Also nice job opening and not succumbing to your anxiety. Have you found that most pick up techniques (mystery method, cocky funny, etc) can be applied to men even though they're designed to be used on women?