Hey I've been studying game for a about 3months and their have already been dramatic improovments in my life and lifetyle, however I am still a virgin, and tonight I was out for the first time at a strip club with some mates (I wasnt looking to pick up) and a mate bought me a lap dance and as this beautifull HB9 was grinding me and rubbing her tits in my face I realised I just wasnt where I wanted to be with girls.

I've got a few girl"friends" now that I love to hang around and go out with and thats a dramatic improovment from where I was before.

Ok now to cut to the chase! Basicly I want to be Like Bruce Wayne and wherever I go I've got beautiful women in my arms and hopefully be sleeping with some of them. I want to have girls begging to be around me, and I'd like to maybe pickup a stripper or two at some point.

Pickup community so far you havnt let me down! I'm lost with my goals and how to get there, share your wisdom!

Hey I wrote this for you but posted it because others might find it helpful.

here is the link

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Hey thanks for posting that up, always good to meet people who aprecciate SPAM! it's already looking like a good shift of perspective on my goals in life to work out exzactly what I want and where to improove upon. As you probaably already know it can really get a bit hazzy at times and this seems like a good way to have a balance and overall smoothness to things. I've just drawn up a bit of a dodgy wheel on paint just so I can keep track of overall progress.

The most of them are fairly obvious and I can work out my areas of difficulty in Career, Money, Friends etc... But just curious to (1.Physical environment) and (6.Personal improovment) what do you think would come under those categories.

For physical environment, is that like living conditions? Quality of home?

It seems like most things for personal improovement are already coverd on the wheel?

Physical environment can be as simple as how many dirty dishes are in your sink. To more complex issues like socio-economic development of the city you live in. The setting in which you live your life has a profound impact on your life itself. I try to take measures to ensure my environment is balanced to the other aspects of my wheel.

Personal improvement would mostly regard your skills, spirituality, and internal value. Most of the other things are more like reflections off of others. Finding your innermost "I am", the thing that doesn't rely on any external validation, and then keeping it happy and valuable is the target here.

I hope this clears it up. Have you ever met someone that when they are around the room feels fuzzy, different, and just plain better. These are the people who live there lives with intention and purpose. Their wheels are huge and they are truly living. That's the kind of person I would want to pick me up.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Stripclubs are soul crushing you should stop going.

Ever heard the greek myth
Tantalus's punishment for his actions was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he could get any.
Thats hell for the greeks.-

Why are you a virgin
Is it high standards
Personal choice
orJust not getting any

I'm trying to remember why I lost my virginity. To what extent was it due to my own effort, and to what extent was it luck? I remember that in 6th grade, a reasonably good looking girl got a crush on my on my 1st day of school, so I knew I couldn't be completely ugly. Totally botched it but eh I was in 6th grade. I remember by the time I was 16 I was making an effort to hit on girls. Generally failing, I don't remember getting a date out of any of it, but nevertheless I kept trying.

At 17 I entered an art contest and this girl had volunteered to receive the artworks. I think she liked my work and she liked me. I hit on her and we went out. We fell for each other pretty quickly, I'd say it was one of those near-instant attraction deals. She happened to be sexually experienced, she was 1 year older than me. So after about a month I found myself fumbling through my first oral sex and then my first full-on sex. I initiated it, as I was a horny bugger, but there wasn't a lot of resistance because she'd done it plenty of times before. I didn't know that at the time, as initially she pretended to be a virgin and I didn't know any better. We were an item for about 5 months until I had to move to London. If I hadn't have moved, we would have broken up anyways as things had gotten rocky. I didn't understand how or why it got rocky at the time, it just did. Some kind of clash of personality probably. She went off to college in the fall and sent me a Dear John letter from there. Oh well, we were separated by an ocean anyways.

I didn't get any when I was in London. Maybe it was the disruption of having to figure out a new social situation. I wasn't socially all that adept and it took me all year in high school to figure it out. Then, just as I had it figured out, everyone graduated and scattered to the four corners of the globe.

Losing my virginity at 17 may have partially been luck. I was trying, but running into the right girl seemed to be a bit of an accident. Art really helped me out here. Even nowadays, I keep forgetting that Art is probably my best chance of getting laid. I should probably give myself more credit, but still, it seems like there was only a 50% chance that I would have lost my virginity at 17. On the other hand, maybe London really wasn't any good for me as far as getting laid. Maybe if I had stayed put in the USA, I would have figured everything out by the time I was a senior and gotten laid. Or maybe not. No question that London was better for my life overall though.

As a freshman in college, I can't remember exactly, but I think I had a few one night stands. There are so many sexually active women in a co-ed dorm that I think a person would have to be pretty darned klutzy not to lose one's virginity then. I wasn't wildly successful with the ladies, but I was making an effort, and I ended up with a girlfriend my sophomore year. I was physically attracted to her, and she had a great brain, but I'd be lying if I said she was my physical ideal. This was a tension for me in the 1.5 years I went out with her. One time I briefly broke up with her, but I didn't seem to have the game to do any better, so I quickly got back with her. Eventually I broke up with her for good because I thought our social life had become completely stagnant. All we did was play games on the computer. It wasn't enough and I wanted out. I was conscious of just how nerdy and stunted a life I was living. Without her, I didn't manage to get anyone else, but I did go back to trying.

Looking back, I conclude:

• Sheer brute force will get you laid in a college dorm.
• Sheer brute force might get you laid in high school.

Didn't know anything about PUA back then. Just the traditional male drill of trying and failing hundreds of times.

The commuter college experience is rather different. If you're not actually living with other students in a dorm, it's a hell of a lot harder to socialize. I've heard of people becoming very lonely going to a commuter college. I would not recommend it.

Hey yeah, that was my first time to the strippers and I have to say it wasn't quiete my thing, I just went in with a bunch of guys for a mates 20th yeah havn't really got a solid opinion on wether I like it or not yet, I'm just clueless to how you pick-up a stripper! Considering shes only there for the money and entertainment.

Anyway more to the point with the virginity situation, I'm 19 and I've been misserable my whole life with women, never had a girlfriend, always been the over the top nice guy that comes on way to strong and only kissed like 2 girls up untill about three months ago, when I cracked and thought I can't go on living like this and just searched the internet like mad trying to find answers, and remember comming accros magic tricks, pick up lines, and they just never appealed to me didn't even try them! and then I came accross Richard Gambler and his dvd's on attraction.

I've always had the mentality of needing a girlfriend and having the "One". I mean my outlook on life is alot different now, I've been spending alot more time around women and going out with them to bars, clubs and even little private dates as friends.

I have to say I've improoved alot but considering how long I spend on theory and the amount of times I've been out I really need to see some results, virginity results in particular. Just getting girls back to my place is something I havn't done yet! I really want to speed things up here! I really need to loose it and get some experience so I can feel more comfotable with what I am doing.

Yeah thats cool, all good now with the wheel of life! cheers should be good.

Are you in college? Most girls in college aren't looking to keep their virginity. Generally there's a "feeding frenzy" at the beginning of the fall semester, where everyone's trying to figure out who they're gonna hook up with. During that time, don't snooze. You'll lose. Really, that seems to be the pre-PUA advice you need to hear the most. "You snooze, you lose."

If you're not in college then your problems may be different.

Hey here in Australia, I'm studying a music degree and a TAFE which unlike a college does not have dorms, so bassicly you just travel back and forth like High school. Yeah alot smaller classes and see each other less frequently, but I'm happy building my social circle outside of TAFE, however I'm still on real good terms with alot of the girls from my TAFE because I'm like one of 3 male singers amoungst 50 female singers, and when I get back I intend to be asking the ones I like out to do stuff. haha but yeah I know what your saying with the "you snooze you loose" I think that can apply to all areas of PU, even going out, being switched on and aware.

Hey first of all I just want to thank all of those who have given me feed back on this thread. know your probabaly thinking "Yeah it's just a thread" but I just want you to know that, the experience and even subtle adivce given over this froum is of high value to me, and I'm sure theres been someone else out there that comes accross this stuff and reads it and can supringsly help.

Anyway now that I am done sharing my manly love, this next question is actually related to the initial topic. Ok one of the ares on your (Jits138 ) "Wheel of life" module is (Family), I have some serious issues in this area I'm actually in a really abusive relationship with a my older brother, we've been through family therapy like 10 times and its just getting worse. I've scanned through other forums and havnt found anything of any use and be happy to open this up in a seperate thread if anyone has anything experience in this area would be great?