Ever since i started learning PU, it has become a hobby of mine to google what non-PUAs or non-aspiring-PUAs think of what we do and learn. And it always amused me to see the amount of disinformation out there. There are entire blog posts, written by mostly women, dedicated to putting down the movement. Reading through them, I don't know if I should be angry that they're insulting us or happy that it makes things easier for us if the general public has a misinformed view of what we do and how we do it.

The one thing that these female bloggers tend to rage about is the neg. They fail to see what it is, a tool to make women loosen up and laugh and be talkative. Rather, they see it as a direct insult.

www.myinflammatorywrit.com writes: "Pick Up Artists" use the art of the "neg" to attract women at bars, i.e., vaguely insulting or criticizing a woman to make her feel less worthy of the undoubtedly stellar specimen who has just stumbled up to her at a crowded bar..."
Or better yet the line from jezebel.com: "they're delusional enough to believe that women haven't heard about "negging," which is essentially the cornerstone of Game, in general."

Are you kidding me? The ignorance is astounding.
Certainly these two women, assuming jezebel is a woman, are even less immune to PU than most other women simply because what they've come to percieve as PU simply isn't true.

That's my rant, what are your guy's opinions?

Negs are dumb.

Sexual tension techniques are where it's at yo

Fine by me. The more they get it wrong, the more helpful this becomes to those who need it and in the end, that's all I really care about.

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Don't think you are, know you are.

Well, you know, dont blast Jezebel, shes a member of this forum... And has a lot of good ideas.

Most of the things that people say about PUAs apply to most PUAs. It is up to us to rise above that level and become something else...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I don't know that the jezebel of this forum is the same that he's talking about since it seems to be a whole site on its own.

Either way, I have no idea why you would defend someone who is bashing the community publicly, friend or not.

If she is some sort of spy or w/e just joining to see what we have to say and relzy it publicly, then she certainly does not deserve to be defended. Even if she's not a spy, refer to my second sentence.

Maybe you know something I don't, which is possible, but I can't fathom why you would even think of defending a person like that assuming my above statements are true facts.

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Don't think you are, know you are.

Well, even if it was a friend (maybe it is a different Jezebel) I think that her points are valid.

You have no idea how many new PUAs there are out there that use the neg in exactly this way. Basically she is not bashing us, she is describing us. In a sarcastic way, yes but Im sad to say, she is correct.

This is what newbies do. They dont know the difference between negs and insults. They sure aim to bring the level of the woman down so that they themselves appear better.

In fact this is what Mystery has said himself. The neg is there to reduce her value so that you can meet it. Otherwise she wont be interested.

Anyway, I dont like that part of the PUA society either. I think that we need to read that kind of stuff in order to progress. It is a wakeupcall guys!

Learn to take criticism, learn to learn from it! Otherwise you will be stuck in the same sad shape as you have always been, PU theory or not.

Ezo

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn