First off I’m new to all of this. I have only posted on here a few times and I have only read 2 PUA books. I need help though. I have been using kata124 routine.
I have had really good success. I have number closed 3 girls. Two of them were HB8’s and one HB7.5. I have stuck to the material and just changed a few things. They have just eaten it up and played right along even adding crazy stuff about all of the sexy pictures that she took for me. It was easy because they answered right back and they stayed on topic so I just went with it. Here are my problems though:

#1 I said:
Well I suppose you're right. It is worth the effort and I do want to be together. I'll promise not to break your heart if you promise to lose Escobar’s number. lol

Speaking of numbers... I seemed to have lost yours in all the messy divorce stuff. Why don't you send it to me again and we can begin rebuilding. This time it'll be fun, exciting and full of adventure!

(I said Escobar’s number because she said Pablo was to short and she Fuc*ed his brother Escobar)

HB8.5 said:

lol ur smooth. i have to give u props

I’m lost now. I don’t know were to go from here. She didn’t stay with it like the other girls. I need help.

Ok now my second problem. This girl is an HB10. She is WAY out of my league. She is so fine though. I started out by commenting on her profile. I said something about her liking pinky promises and how I got my technique down and everything and how she wouldn’t be able to handle it because it’s a game changer….

She said:
youre adorable

Then I went on this forum and found kata124 routine and she was the first one I tried it on. Now I know I messed up I should have just went on to something else because I got a good response from her but I didn’t. I tried kata124’s routine for the first time.

Then after she said that I was adorable I said:
Thanks, but after a brief and rigorous overview of your profile, I have already married and divorced you in my mind. Thanks for all the wonderful memories.

With love,
Your ex-hubby

P.S. I'm totally keeping the beach house in Hawaii.

HB10: Lmao harsh why did we divorce??

P.s. our honeymoon was amazing

ME: As I recall we divorced because I walked in on you with our Latino pool boy Pablo. After which, I obviously had to let him go. You know this doesn't have to get bitter. Remember our pillow fights right before the great sex and the romantic dinners I would make you?

HB10: AWW i miss you come home my love hahahah

Now this is where I messed up for a second time I said:

It is worth the effort and I do want to be together. I'll promise not to break your heart if you promise to lose Pablo's number. lol

Speaking of numbers... I seemed to have lost yours in all the messy divorce stuff. Why don't you send it to me again and we can begin rebuilding. This time it'll be fun, exciting and full of adventure!

I jumped to it because she said aww come home so I just went for it. It was so stupid I know. She has not messaged me back after that. It’s been 2 days and I know she has been on and read it. I don’t know what to do now. She is so damn fine guys I really need help.

So there you have it, those are the things I need help with right now.

Man, stop using so much canned shit. I replied to the other topic about the first one. Why would these girls give you their numbers if they don't really know anything about you. You're just this internet guy who said something funny. You need to break off from there into some real information before you go asking for numbers. Granted this may not always be the case, but it won't hurt you to do it and it probably will hurt you to always jump the gun and ask for numbers.

Try segueing into something personal, like what they're into etc. Hot girls aren't just these flighty people who are completely void of intelligence, passions and interests. Learn something about them and open yourself up a tiny bit, just to get them a little intrigued.

In the end, you need to be more of a person than just a guy who says a goofy story on the internet.

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The only reason I used “so much canned shit” is because it worked before, and there are 15 pages of proof that it was worked for many guys on the other thread. I am with you though I don’t know why the girls that I did get the numbers from actually gave them to me. They know nothing about me, and I don’t know a damn thing about them. From now on I will try segueing into something personal, but as it stands with these two situations I am stuck man. I know that I should ask about their passions or interests, but I don’t know what to say to these two women right now. I have jumped the gun with both of them and they are obviously more intuitive than the other girls that I got numbers from. So what I’m asking for is direct dialogue on how to get back into the conversation with them.

Thanks for your help

I see. Before I go on to give you my opinion of what you should say, I'm just going to say that you should try to start working away from the canned stuff so your personality can shine. Only use the canned stuff until you are comfortable with yourself to just go from there. Once you drop the canned stuff, it's all up to your personality to shine.

Now, let's see...

The first girl:

I would be completely honest and say something along the lines of

"Ok, fine. You caught me.

Now, I'm going to tell you something interesting about myself and then you should do same."

When I did this, I said "I AM THE MASTER (pause) OF THE UNIVERSE (echo)" and I got a fantastic response. The problem with you doing that is that you've already gone ahead and did the silly stuff. She didn't give you much to work with, but it's a nice easy way to slip in and learn something about them. She may not be willing though since you tried to number close on her like that. No connection.

Actually, since you're about in the same situation with the 10 I'd try the same thing. Being direct is a great idea, and it's a quality of an alpha male.

Now here's my advice for the future.

Don't use canned lines. Start out with something that grabs their attention and is funny. I have said things to girls about time travel causing Parkinson's, made fun of their pictures, or made some crazy statement about myself. Then in the end of that message, I'll be a bit more grounded and ask them something personal(ish).

This means that she gets a good laugh or at least some form of intrigue out of your first message, and then gets to settle on something real in the same bit. It gets them hooked, and gets them to see that you can be funny and real.

From there, I close the numbers within the next message or the one after that... but it's something you need to calibrate. Feel when it's right.

Just to address what you said about that topic involving the routine you used. It's just a routine. It's not you. The people who are using those lines over and over are reminiscent of the many PUA factions that fought over students and sarging locations prior to the writing of the game. There's going to be a point when too many girls have seen this preconceived crap, and are going to pick up on it. If you're original or natural from the beginning, you'll always have the upper hand so get there as fast as you can.

I hope that helps. It's a bit late here so it's all stream of consciousness... so I apologize if there are typos or if it seems a bit loopy.

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The canned shit gets your foot in the door, it doesn't get her naked. Ever. Reread those fifteen pages of testimonials.