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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:43 am 
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Today,wasn't a complete failure,but a hard lesson I had to learn.

...I need to do 100x more work.

Although I got countless grinds(Again,that's what I can pull off),I still missed the quota of one kiss-close.

I dont want to say women are evil(They sure as hell arent),but today,proved to me that women are fucking vicious.

One girl was into me(HB 8.5).We grinded 3 times.Near kiss-close,her friend,out of nowhere,pulls her away,and grills me.

I said fuck it.

Later:
-Ran the "Who lies more" opener just to see how many watched VH1.Nearly all of them know Mystery,and say he's a freakshow(Ignornant bitches).
-Tried to open this 3-set.AMOG comes.He's friendly,so I eject peacefully(Unless he fucks with me,I dont ruin.Respect among men comes first).
-Talk with more women.Friends pull away.

There was A CHOCKLOAD of people.Numbering 90-100.

More guys than girls.

I dont care what anyone says here.The naturals are present,and EVEN TOTAL AFCs get more than I do.Pick-up works against you in these settings.

Everyone's in a crowd,and everyone knows each other.Sure,I have people who know me(And acknowledge me),and girls who are all over me at times,but then the naturals just butt in.

Dont tell me anyting related to pick up here. It's more the fact that pure confidence and social proof WILL ALWAYS override an opener,and it's been proven today.

I am not giving up, but I am starting to realize that maybe,just maybe openers and routines are useless. I'm thiniking that the future depends on fundamentals the naturals use:Confidence,not giving a fuck,aggression,and social status.Those 4 decide the factor,and the rest are solely supplemental.

I dont have a car yet,or a job yet.(YES,those are necessary).I walk to all my parties,and try to fight off those inadequate thoughs with just telling myself "I'm a fucking soldier.I march to my potential victory.If anything happens,It is just an inch forward,and although the mile is far and wide,it can be reached".

However,saying it and feeling it are 2 different things. I feel I'm definitely getting there,but honestly, I might lose my head in the process.

I know I haven't failed, but I feel that way sometimes. I admit, I am at war with myself. My inner game was in fact solid the beginning days, but now, It's shaking. It will remain present forever, but I'm always ending up failing. I lose every game at pool. I'm clumsy doing shit. I still get disoriented. The only thing I have going for me is my IQ, my family spirit breeded in me when I was younger (Dad was Cuban army war veteran,and tank driver,and bro was star lineman for my HS,until permanent knee injury,and now does construction and is marrying an HB10.), and the mental toughness breeded in wrestling (Without it, I wouldn't be here right now).

I wish I could convey my emotions with you guys right now, but I have to do my best in text. I dont need harsh reality (I'm seeing it every moment), but I need a direction.

Why is it so fucking hard?! What do others have that I and guys like me dont? Why cant women just shut the fuck up and play along instead of finding 1000 other excuses to go away?! (Not in a negative way women readers,but come on!)

Dont tell me bring in women to serve as social proof. I dont have any female friends from HS or hometown, and the ones here have cars, and I cant give rides, cause I dont have a car (Try telling a girl to walk with you.Total DLV).

Tell me,why?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:13 pm 
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Hey man! Your obviously going through a rough time and I can identify with that. I didn't want to say anything before, but reading your plan for last night I had a feeling something like this would happen. My take is that you need to relax more. Having high goals is good and important, but if that is all you have in mind you are bound to fail.
You are going at it too fast, you are opening with the intent for a f-close and girls can feel that. You should follow the flow a bit more, take your agenda off for some time. You'll identify your opportunity when it comes and you won't be sorry.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:01 pm 
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A lot of girls like going for walks man! They like it to be romantic sort of deal.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:22 pm 
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Yea.I gave time to think about it.

I gotta find a new hobby. I left my PS2 at home. I havent bought any new props or fun social games to play with others.Parkour is limited in college. No clubs around for at least a good 45 min(Driving).

This overzealousness is killing me. I beat myself up yesterday because I didn't do as well as I performed, but I woke up, and I realized "Fuck it.Brand new morning."

Well,also shortly after I posted this thread, I went back to my dorm, and the HB10 who lived in the corner ran up to me,kissed me,and was feeling me up(Drunk). Being the bigger man, I said "Not now."(She was seeing another kid who lived 2 rooms away from me, and he's a cool kid.Honor before pride.)

That was the stupidest, but smartest thing I have ever done. Not even 2 seconds later, as I was heading to sleep, the dude came, and didn't notice shit.

Thanks guys.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:50 pm 
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Blackbull... I think you are setting the wrong type of goals.

Your making goals that depend upon others for fulfillment. That is the wrong way to do it. Make goals that You have to live up to and that all they hinge upon is You.

Instead of "I'm gonna get a k-close tonight" What if every woman in there had typhoid.. you would be fucked then.

try

"I'm going to open every set I see." This all depends on YOU doing something not on them reacting right.

"I'm going to have correct body-language in at-least one set tonight"

"I'm going to use a DHV correctly this evening."


Anyway, I am sure you get what I mean. Use non-situational and non-reactionary goals. They can still be very difficult without being dependant on something you can't control.

Hope this helps.

EvoJ


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:04 pm 
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hey by setting the kind of goals where you are dependent on others (women) to reach them you set yourself up for failure. Never put women on a pedestal. Never let them decide what kind of a night you re gonna have. Also don't look for women to fulfill your life... Only when you feel like you don't need women at all, that you couldn't care less about the girls who you talk to all night, then the women will start flocking on to you.
It's all about the inner light!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:08 pm 
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I went throught the same drought from hell after getting into pickup. At first, things got a little better because I was forcing myself to at least make the approach. Then they got a LOT worse and stayed bad for a long time. I finally stopped trying to learn new methods and created my OWN method, my own approach, my own form of qualification and my own way of showing sexual interest and it works for me. It's not the mystery method, but it's got a lot in common. I think it really boils down to try and keep trying and never admit failure. Just keep working and learning and trying. Give it your all and it'll probably pay off in the end. I lived, breathed and ate pickup for about 90 days...like I was cramming for a test or something.

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