I'm currently doing my final year of highschool, and because of this, a lot of my game takes place at 18th birthdays or house parties, i'm just curious as to whether time constraints are really essential in this kind of environment?

I don't tend to use them, and i want to know if this is impacting on my game.

anyone else's experiences would be great.
gonzo.

Time constraints in regards to what?

Your post is too vague.

If you are referring to texting/calling, then yes they are mandatory for making an impression.

From what i've read, a lot of guys tend to work lines such as 'i can only talk for a minute...' ect into their opening to make sure the girl knows that they aren't going to be hovering around all night.

do most pua's use this kind of statement when opening a girl?
does it help at all?
(i'm pretty new to this whole thing, so any advice would be appreciated.)

I would still say a time constraint is necessary even in this environment. If you've got your mates there with you, open her enough for her to be curious about you and then leave to talk to your mates. Make sure the conversation with your mates is really animated (note I said animated, and not loud and raucous). Throughout the night, if you happen to walk past her, smile and nod but continue walking. Eventually she should get the urge to come and talk to you again.

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The purpose of a false time constraint is to show you're not needy/creepy.

So yes, a FTC is greatly advised. However, an FTC doesn't have to be verbally. I like to use non-verbal FTC. By this, I mean the use of good body language. Don't underestimate the power of BL. For example, opening over the shoulder or you can look the other way when she's responding to you, as if you've seen something more interesting and are about to leave.

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thanks guys,
what you're saying makes a lot of sense,
i'm hitting an 18th tonight, so i'll work that into my routine and see what happens.

I never use FTCs. I just assume the frame that they want me to be there to talk to them and seduce them.

Actually, a lot of what Style and Mystery teach can be done away with if you just use frame control.

FTC's aren't essential, but they're fairly useful. if you open, then say something like 'i gotta get back to my friends' , it shows that you aren't clingy and it can leave her wanting more.
good luck dude

Like all things there's always exceptions, but generally speaking a false-time constraint should be used. If you win the group over with your approach (which is rare, at least in my experience, and if your's differs please tell me your secret), then it probably isn't necessary to give a false time constraint, but likely won't hurt, for it just shows that you are a challenge.
However, like most situations, when you approach women at target rich environments (bars, clubs, huge parties) the women are hit on multiple times throughout the night. Most of them have a strong enough bitch shield to weed out the AFC guys that approach them. By giving the false-time constraint they will lower (or at least partially lower) their bitch shield and give you a chance to open. This happens because they no longer will be thinking, "oh great, another guy who wants to have sex with me, I wonder how I can make him leave," because you already told them you can't stay long, and by saying this you show very little interest in them.
Those are my thoughts.
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As most of the other guys says: FTC's are helpful, but not essential. I can't be arsed to do it as I don't like to think about what to say, but I don't have any problems opening up anyhow.

Well i would say that it dependes on the situation and you have to adapt what ever happens around you. I wouldnt say that time constraints is something you have to say EVERY time you open a set but i would highly recommend it. This is why i think that its good to use it when ever possible:
1. The time constraint brings kind of spontanious feeling into the conversation that you just " happened to bump into these girls ".
2. Also the girls are more relaxed because they know now that you are only going to disturb them just a few minutes ( so the set doesent start wondering how long are you going to stand there and it avoids some awkwardnes ).

Like i said, you have to observe the situation and then make a quick decision regarding the " time constraints ". I can give you one example from yesterday when i was in the club with my friends and i DIDNT use time constraint but still managed to pull it through and received two numbers from the HB sisters.

Example 1:

So i was standing and talking with my friends in this balcony where you could see straight to the dance floor. Next to us was this 4 HB set but i wasn´t sure if they had noticed me or my friends so i had to make a decision whether use a time constraint or not.
I tought it would just sound stupit to walk next to them and say " hey, i need a quick opinion on something but then i have to go back to my friends " when my friends were standing next to me... After a quick call i made my move and just opened that " hey girls, my friend here has a problem and we need women perspect on this ( My wingman has a GF so i wasnt killing his chances ) " and just opened with the "jealous GF opener ". It worked for me without saying the time limit but i would still recommend it when possible.

[ Johnny B ]

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Spend a few seconds glancing at your watch while she's looking at you.

Simple as that.

I'm with Chief on this one...it's all about the frame and mystery's stuff is outdated...there are much better methods out there (usually natural game). I would say a False Time Constraint might be necessary if you're just starting out and don't have the confidence or frame for the "targets" to just enjoy your vibe and want you to stay. Thats a big one!! A girl might just dig your vibe and WANT YOU TO STAY!!! WOWWWWW!!!! Come one guys, once you're in the field enough you will realize that all this sneaking and routine shit is for kids or newbies (absolutely nothing wrong with newbies). It's really about what you feel about yourself and your ability to spread that positive energy and be in the right state which will equal you doing everything right without thinking about it...For Christ sakes!!! I believe in the PUA community if you're not working on your inner game above all else then your not gonna take that much from it, in fact it might even fuck with your mindset!! Inner game makes the community a place were we can improve ourselves and our life and state of mind, outer game makes the community a place were a bunch of nerd whack jobs develope delusions of grandeur before they even know what a vagina feels like!!!