Evo's winding me up I know it lmao

wow 16 pages of this... who has time to read that much

Those of us who can't sleep early on a Sunday morning lol

This calls for a great song. Another golden oldie. And will show you younger chaps how we used to do it in the old days..

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=URErpN3-IFw[/youtube]

My oh my it seemed so much easier then than it does today.

Today you better never mention the 'love' or commitment word with a woman unless she mentions it first.

In fact ignore the heck out of her, and if she doesn't come to you in some indirect and passive aggressive manner just forget about it, and learn to establish a great relationship with your towel and bottle of lotion until you find a woman willing to pull at least half her weight in the relationship (oh and you thought they were perfect? Nope they just like to pretend that they are until you marry them. You know, like you do).

Yep you heard it right, and you heard it here.. If you lack anything in common with a woman, and little or no status over her just forget about it all together. Because in a womans mind men that come onto strange women are one of two things. Creeps or PUA's.

And learn to be patient and careful, otherwise you'll find yourself with 3 jobs, 3 kids, and a wife that wants everything in sight, except you.

As Red1975 proves, there are exceptions. But few of them are below the age of 25 or so.

And remember the song.. If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.

Sad but true. Welcome to the world.

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Oh Starbuck...wise words indeed...I totally hear all you say and am inclined to agree with it..but I have to stick my girly neck out and say my side (I'd say 'our' side but not sure I can speak for all womankind!). Thank you for mentioning me as an exception, I appreciate it.

The last line though, from the song... I can't accept that simply all pretty women are fundamentally trouble and not ones you should marry (if one wanted to get married I mean). You can have nightmare, hardcore, demanding women who may be uggers (ugly!). I see them in supermarkets here arguing with their fellas with a mouth like a cesspit. I hear them swearing and complaining with kids in tow and men walking around looking like they've given up or being insulting back...very depressing, but all show me the kind of woman and maybe even one day wife, I never want to be. And these women are not HBs!
Jeezu, I just read the full lyrics to that song and it's bloody awful! lmao!

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/jimmy-sou ... yrics.html

That could be one of the worst songs I have ever read in my life lol! I can't stop laughing


To me, there seems to be high maintenance and low maintenance women and you can have somewhere inbetween (I'm calling it 'Middle Maintenance' which I think would be where me and my friends fit in). I'm not fully convinced that many women are actually low maintenance, and if they are...are they stimulating or challenging enough to want to keep them?! lol

I agree that it used to be easier..when i was in my teens and early twenties it was so easy to meet guys...now it's not like that at all, along with my age comes everyone being partnered up, or got baggage (emotional or relationship/kids etc) or they're just not skilled enough in PU. Give me a man who can stimulate me, excite me, make me laugh and yes, looks good (as in, looks after himself whether he is fit or not so...I still prefer the not so) and I will feel like I met someone interesting and different and want to see him again.

And Starbuck, as you say, neither gender is perfect...no way. What a boring as sh*t world it would be if we were...I don't hide my imperfections though, they come out as soon as someone meets me, so those who hide them are not all of us...we're not all out to deceive!
It sounds like women hide their flaws in order to'capture' a husband! How hideous! I'm not on a hunt for a husband, and again, I don't know anyone who thinks that way....that they must meet man to marry.

I hear in New York that the dating scene is pretty aggressive, sounds horrible to me-people on the hunt in a demanding and impatient SPAM where end goals are all that's on the agenda. I don't see dating that way at all. Instead of looking for husband, you should just be open to meeting someone who will make you feel good and vice versa for the foreseeable future.

I have to pick up on the 'love' and 'commitment' thing you said...I so don't agree with you on that (sorry about this!), but I learnt a long time ago not to tell a guy you love him first.
Here's how;
After 4 months being together with boyfriend at the time, we were lying in bed and I said 'I want to tell you something' and I smiled shyly...he freaked out and said 'Oh god, don't say what I think you're going to say!'
and he looked horrified and not happy.

I wanted to check in case he thought I was pregnant or something I said 'what do you think I'm going to say?'
and he said 'that you love me!'.

I swallowed the golf ball lump in my throat and managed to struggle silently to not get upset in front of him, and jokingly replied,
'no, don't be stupid! I was just going to say I felt really happy' and I laughed to show he was silly and I was still cool.

I then realised in his reaction that I would bite my tongue if ever I wanted to tell a guy I loved him again...he had to say it first so I didn't make a fool of myself, lose my equality and ultimately feel like sh*t. because I did feel like sh*t...his reaction was a kick in the gut to say 'I don't love you'.
Anyway...that ended ages ago thank goodness...I dumped him after a year for not being that into me and immature as feck.

I wasn't telling that story for any sympathy etc by the way...I don't need it and am not asking for it, it's ancient history...and you live and learn. That was my point re your love and commitment comment and not mentioning it unless she does first.
In my case...we'd be at an impasse!

Anyway, you know what I mean...you say some good points, but I'm just doing my girl's eye view again.
You can tell I'm a girl...I talk too much lol
xx

Omg.. I am so sorry for this but I am laughin my pants off. When you said that you "Wanted to tell him something" My first reaction would have been the exact same except 1 minor detail.

"I thought you were going to tell me you were pregnant!"

lmao...

Okay.. now as for the love thing. That is so easy to manage now adays. Relatively early on in any relationship that I have I tell them a story about a really amazing friend of mine that I used to date. And the story focuses on the fact that we love each other in "that romantic" way. I go on in the story telling how that no matter how much we loved each other, we just couldn't get the relationship to work. So in the end, we had to settle for being friends who just loved about each other in "That" way. And I continue with "And to this very day I talk to her from time to time about loads of different things and we end each conversation with "I love you"."

This story gives a sense of freedom to both the woman I am persuing AND myself. We can now say that we love each other without fearing the repurcusions of a permanent commitment. And yes, I do not mind lying to a woman about love iF it will spare her feelings (Especially since saying "I love you" now doesn't mean that I will spend forever with her).

AND Visa Versa.

Oh and Red... I was not talking about wanting to hire a hooker. I was talking about Golddiggers and the fact that they better be DAMN good in the sack if they want me to buy them a beamer.

DAMN good. LIke I best not be able to walk away from that shit.

EvoJ

What's a beamer?

That guy (my ex) was a full blown manchild. He thought I was smutty because I..well, lets just say he thought I was smutty lmao!

And the love thing...good story you do, that definitely lays down a groundwork, but I don't use the word 'love' unless I mean it... I find that a heavy word to throw around and besides, a girl just can't say it without scaring the pants off a boy! You can say 'I'm very fond of you' or 'I really enjoy being with you' blah blah blah...

I totally agree that using the word 'love' does not mean, 'lets get our asses down that aisle and have kids!'. I think most people our age can appreciate that. I hope.

Beamer= slang for BMW.

And yeah, I would HOPE that people our age have gotten a grip on "love" but they haven't. I just wanna tell them "Control yourselves people ... damn!"

He thought you were smutty? Woohoo! Kinda.

Lady on the streets. (Prim AND Proper)

Freak in the sheets. (And I mean FREAKY!)

Thats how I love my women. Rawr!

lol.

Yes, but can you handle them...that is the question?

When I find one that I can't... those are the ones I keep.

Yes, it has happened in the past.

She was scary awesome.

Very very Scary
but
Very very Awesome.

EvoJ

For anyone that's not familiar with FJ Sharks 'the jerk women love' series I highly recommend it as it delves into the real world psychology of what makes women, especially the young ones tick and how they so often pick a jackass to have sex with, and catagorize decent guys as a means of getting free dinner and marriage. You know after she's all worn out, and lost her looks, etc...

http://www.dating-advice-coach.info/be_ ... n_love.htm

He goes further into describing the difference between a 'premium' and a 'discount' as it pertains to different types of women, in keys to the kingdom of women. And I can attest his advice is right on the money.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/fjshark

In other words you want to date and roll in the sack with premiums, but you definitely want to marry a discount. That is if you like to be happy, content, financially solvent and not locked up in the penal institution for doling out a little payback to the resident dickhead/loser at work or in the subdivision that likes your wife too without all the strings attached.

Look, like it or not Pat Benetar told us 'love is a battlefield', and this is a competitive society/culture. And you can't afford to finish 2nd best, be the vanquished, or act like your momma taught you how to behave around women. Unless you like getting pissed on, living in a trailer or something.

Or you can just hang out hoping one will feel sorry for you.. Hahhahhahhahhahhhahha..

Make sure you bring your bottled oxygen as well. Because unless you got a shitload of money, fame, or some other thing that will ensure her the life of a princess and that she can stuff up the noses of her friends you are going to be a lonely or miserable chap indeed.

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