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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:09 pm 
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I have a dilemna.

I have walked head first into the friend zone, and then started realising that i seriously like this girl, now i am trying to get out of it and i dont know if i am failing miserably or succeeding.

This girl is a virgin, beautiful, funny, hard to get, nice, so she has many barriers and seeing as she is very comfortable with me as a friend i do not see how and when i should move into the boyfriend zone...

What IOI's should i be looking for? and how should i use them? how should i act to induce that form of relationship? should i move my interests elsewhere and be happy she is a good friend?

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yeah, this will be a huge challenge. i myself have never really been in the friend zone with a girl i want to...be with... while it's not inescapable, it's much harder because all the cliche "oh i don't want to ruin a friendship" bullshit comes up. if you can, make yourself seem better as a boyfriend than a friend, because obviously she should value the former more. if she is all you say she is, and still a virgin, do you feel you're qualified and patient enough to handle this endeavor? Obviously theres a reason she hasn't been with anyone else, so you have to figure out what that is and fill in the gaps that the other guys had. does she even date? maybe she doesn't, and then you have a whole new wall to climb. need more info.


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yep, she is what i say she is

Right, she has been dating, she has gone as far as intense foreplay but no further... apparently it is because she was in love with a guy a year ago and she wants to find someone like him, or that reincarnates the feelings she felt. (her first love) by the way she is 16 and i am 17 just to get that cleared up.

Right, she has been through relationships and the last time i asked her if she was interested in boyfriends she ended up saying that she couldnt be bothered, i dont know what that means and im trying to decipher her actions throughout the rapport.

Furthermore towards the end of each meeting she escalates kino compared to the beginning of the meeting where she is very reserved and unresponsive... i am wondering, does this mean she is interested or does it mean she just wants me to stay interested enough to meet up again?

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oh god. well, she may have to grow up a little, buddy. she has delusions or grander about meeting the "perfect guy" again or whatever, but obviously by the kino her body is telling her otherwise. if i were you, while we were hanging out, and she began to get more comfortable and touchy, i'd spontaneously take her somewhere a bit romantic. since she'll already be in a comfortable state, she won't be so apprehensive if all is correct. once arrived, just talk about things that don't instill negative thoughts. talk about the future, and things she likes, dreams, whatever. but don't talk about negative things. escalate kino more. i don't know what kind of geographical area you are in, or how the climate is, but if it's cold that's an easy kino escalation. if you feel that the comfort level is at an all time high, start talking about the girl you envision yourself being with, but describe her. now don't tell her this, of course, make it seem natural, and don't do it down to a T. she'll put it together though. maybe at the end of the night, if you feel like you can without making her feel too weird, give her a kiss on the cheek. cheesy, i know, but girls are cheesy. especially at that age, and especially girls like that.

she'll make the next move. you have to charm her, bro. and to be charming is to pretty much put her in a spell. when she's with you, only make her feel good, not bring up things that will make her feel negative in any way. take her to places she hasn't been, do thing she hasn't done, exceed her expectations of what she thought was possible in a guy, and you've won. it's a tremendous feat, but if executed correctly, works wonders. Always keep her comfort in mind, and you don't want to move to fast either. her natural romanticism will do most of the work in her head for you.


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cheers dude :) good help

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I had a similar situation, the beautiful thing with virgin type girls is they are inexperienced and so you can always draw yourself out of the friendzone. She will probably be looking for a relationship IMO, if you are down for that you could probably straight up chat with her about it.

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yeah, i see where you are getting at.... what would you recommend i do?

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If you are after a relationship just be honest and make a move, tell her how you feel and it should go well. I realize this read like AFC stuff but she sounds like the sort of girl it would work with.

So yar, hang out with her escalate kino then tell her you like her.

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cool.... sounds good, cheers guys

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