ok, so i dont even know if she is lesbian bi or what ever.

she is polish, and works at the bar i go to regularly.
i think she is drop dead amazing 10.
i am cool with all the people in the bar. they know what i order, the Dj likes to talk to me, and its all cool. This girl, is single. She could have a great job in poland, but she is in portugal working at a bar. no good salary, and works extra all the time. she says she likes to be individual and do what she likes.

im not sure what to think. workaholic? does she even like sex?

i went out with her twice. it so happen that she drank in both those times and i think she is afraid of going out with me now. i even took her home!

what to do? any ideas? can i pick her up? if yes...then how!?!?

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The first two times you went out, was there alot of kino? Was she compliant? Is she completely ignoring you or is she just intimidated?

she touched my arm a couple times...but with girls its harder to tell if its kino.

we got along really well. we would not stop talking. we share many interests. she just got really drunk the second time and ever since then, she says hi, but never comes out.

i think im gonna not talk to her for a while now.

what if i just go to her and invite her out...but tell her we dont need to drink?

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If you invite her out, and say "we dont need to drink" she will be more embarassed than she already was/is. Just blow it off like its not that big of a deal.


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i agree with Chino, act like it's no big deal. Randomly drop a story about a girl who was more drunk? <- might be risky, so i dunno.

I used to work in a hotel and had lots of polish friends.
1. they work DAMN hard
2. they come across as a bit colder than N. Americans, but i think it's just they are less superficial. They don't over apologize for shit, whereas N. American do. If you say "how are you" they will tell you how they are, not just say 'fine' (unless they are culturally adapted to N. America.. lots of my mates were straight from Poland)

Anyway, i think you can pull it off. You suggested freezing her out, maybe that's a good idea. Go to the bar and LIVE IT UP, but ignore her. SHe will either approach you or mention it later. If she hits you up at the club, push for it. I dont know where you stand with her, but i find it's always between building attraction (sounds like you got that) and then building comfort, try to relate to her. say a few polish words, laugh at her polish stories etc etc. If she hits you up later and asks why you ignored her, say SHE Ignored you and you used to want to go out with her, but she seems to be gving you the cold shoulder. THis will make her try to prove to you she wants you... or have her illustrate that she wasnt to into you.

Hope this helps... just trying to run through posts and give my 2 cents. hope it's worth something to ya

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Idk guys, she made a very good point that kind of kino between girls is a little more normal for friends than not. So, you may not have the attraction.

As to the freeze-out, I suggest you do it. However, if she vies for your attention, then you should give it to her. It would come across as bitchy to make her try to hard. If she asks why, you tell her. Its pretty simple. If things go good in your next interaction, ask her out again. The next time you go out, turn up the heat

ok. its just that i have been going out and having fun. but this girl just gets my attetion. She works at the bar i go to. She gets out at 2:30 am. thats when most bars close, and its hard to find somewhere cool to take her.

lets call her M.
The last time i invited her...

-M... are you going out today?
-I dont know. Where? "sounded really positive"
-I dont know, hang out a bit.. "this is where i fucked up because her eyes are amazing lol "
-Um... i dont know, maybe i will go home.

Im not a decision maker... and i always forget that i need to start to damn it but what ever.

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Lol yeah, next time you should have a specific place ready to take her. Is there like any breakfast restraunts open at that time, b/c you could just take her to a sit down breakfast. Sit next to her, and kino is up.

see, in portugal not having a car is quite normal. i dont have a car...and she doesnt have one either. she walks to work or takes her bicicle. i have a bike too but i live further away, so i take a bus down into town.
the places open are: a big club that we both hate, a smokers bar that is always packed with people and smoke, and a quiet place that is quite boring. i think the third option is better though. i know a guy that sometimes is cool about me going there after he closes his bar.

ill do this. ill talk to the guy,and ask him if its cool if i show up and try to take her. i can get his number so in case she doesnt want to come out i can just tell him. then ask her if she wants to go and chill out a bit.
the perfect day is wednesday. she doesnt work thursday. but im working now so this week i cant do it for sure. maybe next week. or i can try in the weekend.

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Are you still talking with other women man. Remeber man you are a super human stud. She is not the only one, she's just a number. Unless you want her to be your GF and . Im wondering have you ever made a move on her? Is she your one itis? Hopefully she has'nt put you in the LJBF zone since you have been out wit her twice. In that case use her as a pivot to get other girls. I don't even know you and I don't want to hear you got hurt.

Thats cool, you don't need a car to have a good time....you should most defintely take her to that other place, its better than nothing. I recommend doing it ASAP. If you wait to long, then the chances of getting LJBFed are increased drastically.

dude...shes just one of those mission impossible girls you want but that are damn hard to get. im gonna have a 3some on saturday, i have a girl who is gonna travel for 2 hours just because she really wants to sleep with me again, and im going sarging friday. just kuz im young and i look quite inocent doesn't mean i am. Im just used to going to gay bars and getting girls. im here kuz i wanna improve on getting girls outside gay bars. kuz in the gay bar i went to regularly this vacation after a week i had my reputation...

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cars are bad!! lol
when you have no good place to go, and your lesbian, and you decide the car is the best option... its BAD. 2 stories.

1. in the back seat of a car. the car had alarm... so every now and then it would notice that people are inside and it would start beeping. then some dudes went to ckeck it out and noticed 2 naked girls and found it quite amusing. not cool...

so we are stubborn. same girl, 2 nights later, her car this time. bigger back. "not back seet...how ever you call the thing behind that in english"
we got a sheet in there, made some space, start getting comfy. as it gets more serius it was messed up. it was impossible to do positions...and we both ended up full of bruises.

so... cars are not so cool when your the energetic type and your lesbian...

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so, yesterday me, ice20, and some people who work in the bars "downtown" went out after their bars closed.

M was there, and i found out from her guy friend that she really digs me. He said she loves my personality, thinks im a really interesting person, and that "she would love to be with you"

that last part can be interperted all sorts of ways. he called me this morning and told me i missed something, and that when he says something i should listen. toldme to go to his bar on saturday

ok, so i didnt move in a lot. i did a bit of push pull and then droped it. she offered me a drink, i told her the next time id get her one "kuz i was broke yesterday...damn it" and she said its ok. she seemed really happy to be with me though. next time ill game a bit more. im just going really really slow kuz i know how to handle this kind of person. i went out with a girl just like her "in that sence"

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*victory dance for Dre* "Go Dre!, Go Dre!, Go Dre!"

do the phone number thing we discoussed, I think its the best thing to do.
dude, wtf do i do now about barbara?