Personally I have noticed it does make a HUGE difference but remember in the game looks = only 10% of attraction the rest is game. I myself have to keep in shape because I do a very physically demanding sport which also is a huge dhv haha any other mma fighters here? pm me

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dude, ru fucking retarded? What about if you have a shit ugly face? Can you improve that? No amount of weights is going to fix that, and the face makes up for like 50% of looks taken into consideration by a woman.

You cant fix your face without plastic surgery, or makeup(GAY), and both are a no go for most people.

You're right you can't change your face but you can focus on things you can change like your body to take attention away from your ugly face go back and read my example about the 2 girls on page 1

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yeah i think the whole point of this topic just got lost on some of these guys. He never said that muscles pulls girls alone, its like a booster i mean you still need some type of game. I already stated earlier about how working out releases endorphins which make you happier and more confident which ultimately help you out more than the muscles did. Being in shape also gives you a better body image and we dont have to mention how much girls like a fit guy, not HULK HOGAN fit but more like Peter Parker after the spider bite fit ex lean muscle and definition lol i know corny example. but i hope you guys get the point....

Oh and I know plenty of shit ugly guys who pull HB8-9 and there "Game" isn't even that sick. they have confidence and they dont care about their looks, they act like they are the shit, if a girl tries to play them they act like the girl isnt even worth it to talk to, and they ALL are in pretty good shape (all of these guys are on my wrestling and football team with me).

yea, but notice how those same guys keep returning to the clubs night after night after night? You can have all the muscle you want, but without brains, personality, or character....you are not going to make it any further than a fools mate or day two.

And peacocking is only part of what helps you get approached. It is a tool they can IOI you for. It isn't going to help if you are wearing a Cat In The Hat hat on your head, but walking around with low energy and not giving off good vibes. You have to be congruent with the article you are wearing.

You also need to build a little social proof before they will bother. Why IOI someone that no one else is talking to? Its a device to assist not to do the work for you. Go open some sets, build some social proof so they will have a reason to notice your peacocking tool.

The men with muscle, they don't need to build social proof because they trigger physical attraction switches - their muscle is also a tool. They have just had it for so long they know how to use it.

Or hey, why not do both. Get ripped and wear weird shit.

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but why disqualify yourself right off the bat by being out of shape.

Say there are 2 exact same guys, one is fat one is in well shape. Obviously the girl is going to pick the well in shape one, even if he is ugly. Its as simple as improving your chances.

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read up on physical attraction for woman. there is always something you can do to improve your looks. Which, by the way, are subjective to women.

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LOL Peter Parker... but yeah some ppl are getting it wrong I never said you didn't need to have game. I'm more so saying peacocking is overated and a bit of an excuse for laziness at the end of the day once you take off your peacocking shirt you're still out of shape. Built guy with a plain white t shirt is more visually appealing than out of shape dude with the fuzzy purple sweater. Most Any women will say the they don't want the man with the keg they want the man with the six pack of coors lite

You got to ask yourself do you want the girls when they see you out and about to say DAMN!!! or damn.......

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im glad i ran into this thread. thinking about it being well built is a form of peacocking. essentially you are doing what others arent no?

the classic "v" shape was brought up and it is true. personally i was thrown into a swimming pool when i was 6 years old and did pretty much only front crawl. after years of that you get a pretty damn good back/shoulders for not so much work. i have lost track of the number of occassions where i have been opened with "nice shoulders" or "wow, are you a swimmer?"

wearing a fitted top or even a vest/tanktop will show this off. another great bonus is when you take your top off when you are back at hers and you see the look of delight on her face its a really nice feeling.

dont get me wrong you wont get ripped just like this, if you want this then you need to have a nice cardio routine and when doing weights for both the fast and slow twitch muscle fibres.

at the moment im doing 2 "sessions" both start with 20ish minutes on a cross trainer with incline at 12 and resistance at 12, this is nice cause it trims down the layers of fat as well as being a pretty good workout.

session 1-arms:

biceps:
3x curls
3x hammer curls
3x twisting curls
3x ape curls
3x widegrip barbell curls

(all these sets to be done to 8 reps whilst in a seated incline bench other then the last 2 ex)

triceps:
pressdowns
rope pulldowns
palm facing you pulldowns

(start on a low level and do 20 reps even if you find this easy and keep going up till you can only do 6-8 reps)

session 2-chest/shoulders/back

back:
close grip pulldowns
extreme widegrip pulldowns behind the back
seated rows

shoulders:
side extensions
lateral raises (both ex on a cross cable machine)

pecs:
cross cable flys
twisting incline dumbell benching

(again start on a low level and do 20 reps even if you find this easy and keep going up till you can only do 6-8 reps)

sorry this post got a bit out of control but this routine WILL bulk you up and give you good defination and yes there are other exercises you can rotate in but these are very very good for building the v shape back as well as keeping nice defination. for the record im only 135 lbs

Just because a guy has muscles does not mean he doesn't need to build social proof. If the guy is in an environment with other guys that work out, he is going to need that social proof to stand out from the other muscle guys. Because as you said, muscle is a tool.

Lockes saying built guys dont have to work as hard because the girls are already checking him out vs regular the guy who has to have a girl or 2 with him get that same attention.

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I agree that muscles make it easier to get girls, I disagree with the regular guy thing tho. But I am asking about a room with a bunch of guys with muscles. Because you can not just rely on your physical attributes to get girls then.

Not sure if anyone touched on this in this post.

Working out is great and having a good body always helps but it can also backfire.

If you are visually good looking and have a great body many women will automatically assume you are gay or bi.

I've seen this first hand with a friend of mine.

Women meet him and want to go shopping with him rather than date him.

This seems too much in the friend zone for me.

Your friend acts feminine and therefore gives off a gay aura

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