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Throughout my past during pickups, relationships, friendships, and fuck buddies there have been times where they insult you. A flat out flash of fucking anger.
" You're so fucking annoying, You're a dumbshit, Gawd leave me alone, Shut the fuck up" ect. Those insults that literally come out of thin air over the smallest things. Literally, it raises out of nothing, like a simple question or a statement that asks them to repeat a question, there was bad frequency over the cellphone. What do they mean? Whats the best way to handle them? I know it varies per person/pick up/and relationship but there has to be a general rule on what you should do. I know one thing not to do is take it personally and let it affect your state but it does. I feel lame and pathetic when things like this occur and bug me because I feel like I did nothing wrong but they lash it on me. And no, its not their period.
I don't know you in real life, so with the few details you've offered me, I can only come up with a few possibilities as to what could be going on beneath the surface.

1. They could just be shit-testing you, and the type of girls that you are attracted to are just a little bit unorthodox in their methods of testing. If that's the case, respond to their flashes of anger as you would to any shit-test.

2. You could be going through one of those Deangelo phases where you aren't balancing the Cocky and Funny formula too well. You may be being too cocky and not enough funny. When this happens, girls get really annoyed. I went through this phase before. If that's the case, let go of your ego. That's where the miscalibration usually comes from.

3. Human beings are, in general, unpredictable in many regards. There are always too many variables to take into account. The girl may have had a shitty day and you caught her at a bad time. By the context of your question, though, it sounds like this has happened on multiple occasions with multiple girls. You may have a tendency to call girls when they are in a bad mood somehow lol. Or, you may have a habit of eliciting negativity when in conversation with women. If that's the case, take Tony Robbin's 7-day positivity challenge. For 7 days, try to think of ONLY positive thoughts. If you think ANYTHING negative, quickly reframe it into something positive. This will give your brain a great new productive habit.

The next time this happens with a girl you are actually close to, just ask her what's up. Tell her that you're willing to listen and find out if she's had a rough day, if you actually said anything that offended or hurt her, or anything of the sort. We PUAs sometimes focus so much on reading subcommunication that we oftentimes forget about basic communication.

...But, of course, there's good reason for that. This type of communication will get you nowhere if you aren't close to the girl. You also need to be emotionally intelligent.


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Ah, it makes so much sense now. I'd say its all three, I've been a pessimistic person since middle school, my imbalance of C&F, and i elicit negativity with some women. Fuck my life, I have a lot of work.

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Chief Im back!! lol

well I went with my cousin, his gf, her sister and best friend as well. I kinda gamed her best friend- ended up #closing her 8) which you can read in the field section ( its kinda long). Well I got a problem.. which I cant really solve for the life of me. Im 18 and Im sure Im done with puberty but the thing is I cant control my voice. My voice is usaully kinda deep but when I talk sometimes it gets really deep... which your probally thinking so? the thing is that this happens rarely but the rest of the time I cant control the volume of my voice. For example:

I was walking with my cousin and his gf. She was talking to me and I tried responding but no matter what or how close she got she couldnt hear me and it happens alot of times on other get togethers... I tried practicing by myself but it gets so annoying because if I tried responding with a loud answer it ends up coming out really low and when I repeat, the same thing happens :(:( I hope you can help me if you dont mind.


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if I tried responding with a loud answer it ends up coming out really low
Loud and low? Sounds like you've got the perfect combination going. What's the problem?

1. Loud = vocal projection = dominant = attractive

2. Low = masculine = attractive

If I were you I'd be yelling all the time lol


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Hey, just popping in for a thanks. About 3 months after the recommendation, I have finally finished the RSD Blueprint. I just want to thank you for that recommendation, as it really was outstanding to me.


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Yoooo Chief, your probs going to get pissed at me for running the OMS but it was appropriate for the situation. Anyways...


I don't know how familiar you are with the OMS (you seem experienced with NLP and I saw your discussions about it) but I just recently had an epic failure with it because of what she was thinking.

I already brought out a really painful memory for her and anchored it too the beach (don't ask why, she mentioned something before about hating oceans) and it was in turn to ask her to think about what she loved most. Then I asked her to feel the emotions she felt while being around this person. Well it turns out it was her Mom. And she felt really guilty for being a shitty daughter and lying to her all the time and she ended up feeling like more shit. I had no idea what to do next that never happened, If her Mumz is what she loves most and thats just eliciting more pain, then the fuck? Has this ever happened in the record of OMS?

I tried bringing out pleasure by asking for hobbies and shit but she said she had none and I just ended up making her more depressed. I tried thinking of possible things that she could feel happy about but she thought those things negatively as well.

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Yoooo Chief, your probs going to get pissed at me for running the OMS but it was appropriate for the situation. Anyways...


I don't know how familiar you are with the OMS (you seem experienced with NLP and I saw your discussions about it) but I just recently had an epic failure with it because of what she was thinking.

I already brought out a really painful memory for her and anchored it too the beach (don't ask why, she mentioned something before about hating oceans) and it was in turn to ask her to think about what she loved most. Then I asked her to feel the emotions she felt while being around this person. Well it turns out it was her Mom. And she felt really guilty for being a shitty daughter and lying to her all the time and she ended up feeling like more shit. I had no idea what to do next that never happened, If her Mumz is what she loves most and thats just eliciting more pain, then the fuck? Has this ever happened in the record of OMS?

I tried bringing out pleasure by asking for hobbies and shit but she said she had none and I just ended up making her more depressed. I tried thinking of possible things that she could feel happy about but she thought those things negatively as well.
If you play with fire you're gonna get burned.
Do you really want to elicit negativity and even trauma from a girl? Do you really want to do such a thing to another human being?
Thanks for ignoring my warnings in those OMS threads.


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Okay, so I know your view on the OMS, but are there positive applications for it? Such as to help someone get over fears or to help deal with painful memories?

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Okay, so I know your view on the OMS, but are there positive applications for it? Such as to help someone get over fears or to help deal with painful memories?
I'm 100% confident that there are positive applications for this powerful technology. I just haven't discovered too many yet, and I'm going to look into it. Rye Lee is also looking into it as well and he plans on discovering new ways to do good things with it.

Admittedly, I sometimes use a little bit of symbolic morphology (also used in OMS) to help people overcome Approach Anxiety, but it's never the full sequence.

As for getting over fears and dealing with (or forgetting or reframing) painful memories, there are already effective solutions to overcoming such issues in other facets of NLP, hypnosis, and other various branches of psychology, both clinical and non-clinical.

There has been one sole time when I recommended the October Man Sequence to someone, though. This guy was telling me about his relationship with his fiance. She and he both expressed that they love each other very much, and that they would each do anything to stay together and have a faithful marriage.

The girl, however, confessed to him that she had cheated on him years back. She was full of remorse and regret and begged him for forgiveness. Out of compassion, he forgave her, but he wondered what he could do to ensure a secure relationship. The girl was willing to do anything to stay true to him and to completely regain his trust.

I told that guy about the October Man Sequence and taught it to him. After discovering what it was, however, the good hearted man told me that he would not want to use it on his fiance.


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So the OMS can be used to save LTRs that are serious?

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So the OMS can be used to save LTRs that are serious?
I'm betting it can be used to seal LTRs shut. Tightly.

For good.

I also believe, in hindsight, that "true love" shouldn't be interfered with by the OMS. And, if the LTR isn't even based on "true love," or if it's having troubles based on the natural progression of a relationship, or if the two people just aren't compatible, it would be highly inhumane and unethical to trap a woman's emotions into an everlasting commitment using hypnotic techniques like the OMS.

So, basically, it doesn't "save" a relationship. You might say that it "dooms" the woman to serve a lifelong sentence emotionally. You wouldn't want to do that, would you, Beschatten?


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Of course not.

I'm not a big fan of it and I rarely use it just because it's such a long and unenjoyable process. But if there isn't any form of attachment to begin with or 'love' between target and PUA, the effects aren't as dooming.

I guess in an LTR it can trap her emotions though. I was just curious because LTRs are almost impossible to figure out. At least for me.

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LTRs are almost impossible to figure out. At least for me.
What's there to "figure out?" A relationship, you might say, almost has a life of its own. And, whatever has a life also has a death. It's the natural progression of things. Nothing lasts forever. Concepts like permanence and immortality are unattainable goals that the unenlightened constantly chase. Letting go of your ego and embracing change and embracing the NOW, however, can lead to happiness and new discovery. It can let you really enjoy every relationship you'll ever have with anyone.


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LTRs are almost impossible to figure out. At least for me.
What's there to "figure out?" A relationship, you might say, almost has a life of its own. And, whatever has a life also has a death. It's the natural progression of things. Nothing lasts forever. Concepts like permanence and immortality are unattainable goals that the unenlightened constantly chase. Letting go of your ego and embracing change and embracing the NOW, however, can lead to happiness and new discovery. It can let you really enjoy every relationship you'll ever have with anyone.
Perhaps a relationship can outlive the participants.


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Chief,

From the looks of it, you got the answers!
Please allow me to be the next in line...

I dont know if you have had any experience with Hypnotica and his teachings, but is hypnotism (in your opinion) worth looking into, or is it just another routine to fascinate women? I recently watched Hypnotica's 3DVD course, and, to me, it was entreating. Still, i would like an outside opinion...



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