Just interested in your opinion of what im thinking.
If you're a low vaule guy 1 or 2, do you think you should neg a HB 6 then? (without crushing her self esteem or pissing her off)
But if you are of equal value or just below or higher value you dont have to neg, because then you dont have to do so much to dhv than her.



(Not that i am a HG1 or 2, but im just interested and trying to gain more understanding)

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It's pretty common now. I use it but try to limit how much I use it so that my messages are clear.

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This really isn't the place to discuss Neg Theory. I don't care what your value I still neg. You should read Sinn's Neg Theory. That would give you a good idea of how to balance it out with lesser HBs. You have to balance your neg with compliments for HB7s and less. Check it out it'll help you out a whole lot.

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Hey smooth.

I remeber you said you had a lot of success of pulling girls off of craigslist. The few times I have tried it seems like i get porn emails back. Do you just have a ad up about yourself? Or do you make the initial contact?

Thanks

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I have done both but mostly I just post an ad myself. You have to weed through the junk, but it still pays off most of the time. Just like you I get the junk emails, spam, and girls I'm not interested in.

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Smooth! A little help please!

OK, I was ill at home the other day so I started talking to a girl who later turned out to be a model. She took long to respond and when she did, it was very short - usually a line or two. I found myself checking facebook every hour waiting for her reply. Not a good situation. So I thought - what can I do to make it better in terms of me being less outcome-dependent (she is VERY hot), and then it hit me: I found an easy way to add about 30 other models as friends, sent them all an identical message (Whoopie, if you're reading this, you rock!) and got 7 responses. I'm talking to 8 models now. Phew, the pressure is off

I decided to go straight into teasing and qualification - either 'tell me something interesting about yourself' or the bolder 'what have you got going for you more than your looks'. This isn't large enough a sample for me to decide which works best, maybe your expertise could help here

Point is, all their responses are incredibly brief - a few words, a line or two at best. Needless to say, I keep mine short two - one, max 2 sentences. Is this what online exchanges with models are supposed to look like? If not, how do you usually prompt longer responses from them?

Couple of gems:
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ME:
Man, you wouldn't believe the day I had... Tell me what you did for the army, I'm actually intrigued for once

HER:
i was a clerk nothing fun

ME:
... and you kill the mystery once again!! Your ex boyfriends must have hated that about you

HER:
haha i think they just hate me lol

ME:
Poor guys! You'd make a terrible girlfriend. That's it, I'm downgrading you to 'potential friend at best' missy!

HER:
lol awww : 0 (

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What's the deal?!

And if that's how they roll, how much do I have to wait before I arrange a meeting (low-pressure: 'join me for a cup of tea at XYZ, that way I can just walk away quickly if you turn out to be weird').

Be as harsh as possible, it's for my own good

Thanks,

Ace

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Most women online in the first few bits of communication, especially hotter women tend to be very brief. Looks like you are doing well with your interaction and establishing yourself as being the prize to her.

Personally, to get women online to start qualifying I like using "Beauty is common...what have you got going on for you before your looks?" I even like using this for an opener at times.

You need to get an hour or two worth of conversation typically before you can # close and then proceed to a date. The next step here is going from email messages to getting her instant messenger contact information so you can talk to her in real time, and it's very low risk. Of course, then you can display more of your personality that way, and eventually # close her, and then get her 1 on 1.

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"Looks are common...so what else do you have going for you?...I would think that the woman would not care to respond since she doesn't know you to begin with.

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I see your point here, and of course not all do respond. However, a lot of women just instantly feel the need to justify themselves. They feel that you have the wrong perception of them, and it bothers them. Thus, they respond back with qualifying.

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Makes sense J Smooth. I have actually tried these tatics a few times earlier about a year ago, but their responses are short. It had to gain a conversation with short responses. What I have recently tried is sending neg messages. It seems to work just half the time. So I'm trying to find a good operner to which is appealing to most women

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Online openers can be tough. I found what you found that negging when you open works about 50% of the time. I use dating sites mostly cause I can read a bit about them, and make a comment to ground myself in their reality.

I may say something like: I was browsing the profiles and found yours of all people. At first you picture caught my eye but I couldn't help but wondering is there more to you than your looks? Anyways, I'm not into games, and I'm sure you're the say way. Email me and let's see how far we go.

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ok so im new to the PUA material and such and i was wondering if you had any good ways to meet girls on myspace?

maybe some good openers or techniques would be nice.

thanx in advance

Honestly, I don't do a lot of sarging on myspace and other networking sites. I mostly stick to dating sites. However, I can get you in the right direction. A guy on the forum Fiction has a section just on myspace. Basically, I know most guys open with a neg. Stuff like "Nice hair is it real?" or "Nice picture, is that really you?" The link below will give you some more ideas too.

HOPE IT HELPS

the-myspace-methods-vt8252.html?highlight=myspace

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yea...that forum actually helps alot. Appreciate the luv

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Thanks a lot man. Those are very helpful.