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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:21 am 
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Alright. To keep the conversation interesting, first of all you gotta change this idea of "I don't know what to talk". Remember you're a PUA!! You gotta show confidence...

So after opening a set. Let's say you got their attention. Now realize this example:

You're a salesman and trying to sell any product. After got the attetion of a person, what would you say???

You would talk about the characteristcs of product. You're trying to sell it, so you need to impress the customer. You need to be convincing enough to make the customer buy it.

Now turn this example into your field. You're the product! And guess what?
Girls need this product.
You just need to give them enough VALUE of the product.

That's what we call DHV ( Demonstration of High Value ).
After opening you should convince the girl that you're awesome, and you wanna to build this attraction of her to you.

SO you can tell her stories about of your own life. Something funny, but not vomiting all words. Say it pausedly.

Like:

You: "Hm I just got back from a travel... "
She: "Really? Where were you?"
You: "Netherlands... Crazy place there.... they have the biggest anything of the world... bla bla "

Show her that you're a nice guy, tell stories....

Than you can use some NEGS.

A NEG is something you say to keep the girl suprised. It's something you say that she's not expecting, in a way to laugh of her. Not to lower her, but to make fun of her.

You: "Yeah, and out there on Netherlands, they smoke pot just like you..."
She: "But I don't smoke pot.."
You: "Oh really? I thought you did, you're eyes are so red... " *(This is a NEG )

Or if she says:
She: "I really love smoke some weed!! "
You: "Really? So I'll finish this conversation now. You won't even remember my name tomorrow..." ( That's a NEG again . )

This helps you to make her desires you. All the guys would say good things to her, instead you're not saying. That's what girls want, DIFFERENT GUYS.

So, next step DHV, NEGS.

IF you can get this one. I'll move to next step, ok?

See ya!
Thx dude. :)


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:09 pm 
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No problem.

I hope you get it.

If you have any problem, I and all the community are ready to help.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:29 pm 
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Ok, I'm the biggest loser of all time


I had a good chance again to talk to that girl... she was eating alone in the dining room in a big table


I figured it would be a good chance to go and ask if I could sit there (I was gonna eat too). but once again I froze like a f'cking pussy and went to eat alone. :cry:


same questions in my mind, "what the hell should I say" etc. my head was totally empty of ideas. how can I get rid of this damn fear!!??


And are there any easily remembered "universal" openers that I could use in almost every situation (clubs, store, library, streets etc)??


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Ok, I'm the biggest loser of all time


I had a good chance again to talk to that girl... she was eating alone in the dining room in a big table


I figured it would be a good chance to go and ask if I could sit there (I was gonna eat too). but once again I froze like a f'cking pussy and went to eat alone. :cry:


same questions in my mind, "what the hell should I say" etc. my head was totally empty of ideas. how can I get rid of this damn fear!!??


And are there any easily remembered "universal" openers that I could use in almost every situation (clubs, store, library, streets etc)??
You are deff putting to much pressure on yourself. It doesn't matter. If you asked if the seat was taken, she would of said yes or no... Simple. Whatever she said, she would of never shouted at you or attacked you or anything that might of been running through your mind. It would of been either a yes or no.

Then, when she said 'no, the seat is not taken' just sit down and talk about anything. The weather, how crap the food is, what she's doing at the weekend.

I dont think using lines or any pua stuff is really going to help you until you get over your AA so just concentrate on saying a few words to someone, even if its a bloke. You just need to get talking mate.

Remember, no guts, no glory!!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:02 am 
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Ok, I'm the biggest loser of all time


I had a good chance again to talk to that girl... she was eating alone in the dining room in a big table


I figured it would be a good chance to go and ask if I could sit there (I was gonna eat too). but once again I froze like a f'cking pussy and went to eat alone. Crying or Very sad


same questions in my mind, "what the hell should I say" etc. my head was totally empty of ideas. how can I get rid of this damn fear!!??


And are there any easily remembered "universal" openers that I could use in almost every situation (clubs, store, library, streets etc)??
There's also an approach rule. In Mystery Method he advises to use the "3 seconds rule". It's simple. If you see a target, you have around 3 seconds to approach without getting blocked, just like you did 2 times.
It's simple. Do you see the girl? 3s... APPROACH. Don't hesitate. Come up confident and smiling.
If you follow this rule, you won't even have time to figure out what to say, or what she's thinking. That's the biggest "pro" of this method.

The next time you see a girl, and like her. 3seconds.... APPROACH ok?

Even if you don't know what to say, this will help you to lose this lack of confidence you have. There's no need to worry.

I know it's difficult to say all those stuff like this, but look for some videos, see how those guys do, maybe it encourage you.

Remeber, you're just good as you wanna be. If you wanna be a PUA fight for it. Work a lot, overcome all your fears and shy. This will help you in any other areas of your life too!

So, I want you to use the 3 seconds rule. Having any problems? Try to use it with an old lady, who you knows you won't try to pick up. Be nice to woman, so you'll be nice to all woman.

Good Luck!

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:10 am 
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I personally love the three second rule it gives me no time to think and I almost always throw out a really good new opener every time. Most of the times its a funny one. Which is another plus because I am eliciting an emotion right away on contact.

Honestly, the worst thing that can happen is that you get laughed at, and the set will remember that for all of like an hour tops. You have to just go for it. The benefits far out weigh the negative consequences of opening a set. Remember its a game. Every time you open a set or walk into a place, the game is beginning. Play.

Joker


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