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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:26 pm 
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I have seen so many one-itis threads and threads about attachment that I have realized it is a common problem. This thread isn't for either though. It is just kind of about them. I just have heard so many people call "love" all sorts of different things. They use it for all different types of situations they were in, and for many different women they were with. Some of the descriptions are entertaining, and some can broaden your views.

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Soooo gentleman:

What do you think love is?
Does it exist?

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I don't believe in love but personal relationships involving sex.

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I don't believe in love but personal relationships involving sex.
I agree with wild one I don't believe in love but LOVE MAKING

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Love is seeing a woman who you could have great mating opportunities with. It's based on age, looks, social value, Breasts and hip-width :D Like the vikings used to say: TAKE HER!!! She has good strong child bearing hips!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:33 pm 
Yes, love does exist.

True love does exist.

Any questions? :wink:

Now, there are different LEVELS of love, I believe. And that's a whole other thing that we could get into. I'm not sure you want all that in this thread, lol.

In a nutshell, you could say love is one-itis fine tuned and reciprocated.


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some people feel that love is just a combination of a close strong friendship, with common interests, good sex, and a lot of sacrifices.

haha, and what do you guys think aboot that one?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:56 pm 
I'd say those things are included in love, but not the whole picture.


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Scientifically, I thought "love" was just a chemical reaction that lasts anywhere from a few months to a few years, evolutionarily designed to see the couple through child bearing and rearing???

Emotionally, (see my very own oneitis thread for more on this, lol.) love for me was having such an intense bond with someone that... well, I thought about this for quite a while, and I really have no words to describe all those feelings. I literally and inexplicably felt compelled to say "i love you", I would make completely selfless sacrifices for her on a daily basis, blah blah... I be with her, then leave, and I would actually miss her in such a short period of time.

I "loved" her, whatever that means, as far as I am concerned, and when it was no longer there anymore... I could barely even handle it. I literally felt physical pain at the mere thought of it, and even to this day certain thoughts or memories can completely bring me down.

The other half of this, is that even if logically I know this is bullshit, I don't FEEL like I could ever feel as strongly for someone as I did for her, not only because it's just this intense feeling, but because when I was with her, I wasn't really paying attention to any of this, which coincidentally is exactly why I lost her and simultaneously why I was so bonded and so ridiculously happy... and now that I am paying attention, I don't think I could ever stop, and I'm not sure I could ever reach that state again.

More on this when I have time.


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Love!!! :D . First off, Love is an insecurity- at least the new-age version of love. The concept of only loving or feeling peer-bonded to 1 individual is in essence- selfish. As Mystery says, attraction isnt a choice. Love(intense feeling) isnt a choice so its damaging to restrict it to 1 person; not saying to love everyone but..

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A very smart man once said
"Love is an undying wish for one to be and stay happy."


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Clowd said it all.


I feel the same way brother.

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I believe in the unshakeable, timeless bond 2 people can share in the phenomenon we call "love"

BUT

It is very rare, and the word "love" is thrown around carelessly these days. I think most of our grandparents has the best oppurtunity to experience real love, our parents had even less the chance and we have little chance in the society we live in today, sad but true. Love is out there, but it takes real dedication and perseverance to find and keep it.

If anyone out there is searching for it, the bible is the best place to start and go from there.

haha in any case I love all my fellow PUA's

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Love is the ability and willingness to sacrifice what you have for another, to be willing to give up multiple relationships and be exclusive. Its the ability to put aside your own thoughts and feelings at times and accept alternate views from that person regardless.

I think the problem with alot of people is that they confuse things like lust, obsession, sexual desire, etc with love.

Haveing said all that i also agree with statements about love being an evolutionarily driven emotion. I dont beleive in one person being the right one...sure some people are better then others, but if 1 person out of billions was the right one for you, what would the chances of meeting them actually be.

Love can be "everlasting" or it can last a short time. There are obviously different forms because you hopefully do not love your family the same way you love your partner.

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Interesting topic.

I don't want to be a jerk, but I really believe that those of you who say there is no such thing as love, apparently show signs of deep emotional scars. You probably never experienced true love, and in that case I'll tell you one thing: you mother sure didn't do here duty.

I feel love towards my family and my friends and many people around me. I could easily love a girl.

And I'm beginning to get some doubts about all this PUA-stuff. I'm thinking: when will you get happy? when have you had enough women? isn't it an endless chase?

Love shouldn't be the goal of our lives, it should be around us and within us all the time.

I think the best row model for all of us would be Jesus. His gift is that he can give infinite amount of love to any human. He is tolerant with people. Thinking about it, isn't he the perfect alpha-male? I think he could get any girl.

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A portion of something I wrote about love once before PUA.

I believe the problem's root cause is intersubjectivity. Society has defined love for you; what it feels like, looks like, and how you're supposed to act. This happened because language is communal; we define concepts through our individual, subjective experiences. We then share our similar subjective experiences intersubjectively to better understand life and our surroundings. So you describe what you're feeling by how someone else described his or her similar situation. However, emotions are internal; so how do you know you're at the emotional level they were? You don't.

So how do you fall in love with someone? Well... you liked the person first. As time went on, that feeling grew stronger and stronger. We know that love is an immensely stronger feeling than like. And I have no problem with using love to simply better describe your feelings, but the majority of people don't use it because it is linguistically more descriptive. They use it because they think they're in that "risk your life, kill me not them, I can't move on, we're meant to be" kind of love.

I 'love' it when my peers talk about how younger kids aren't in love. Then after their done conversing on the subject, they turn around and tell their partner "I love you". What makes their love real and the younger kid's love fake? We both know what you're thinking, even if you don't admit it. They don't do those physical things that people in love do. But I must be confused… I thought love was an emotional connection…not a synonym for lust.

Maybe you weren't thinking physical, you were thinking emotional. You didn't believe they were in love because they are so young? This is true; they can't get into an R rated movie or even cross the street by themselves. Basically, they haven't fully matured into the person that they will be for the rest of their life. But have you? I think the high divorce rate of our country is a result of this "illusion of maturity". Many people get married while their young. "But mom I'm in love! What else do I need?" Then after a couple years, as they finish maturing, they grow apart since and they are no longer as compatible.

The result is a divorce. And the ones who don't divorce have kids. These kids are then raised in a household, under the assumption that their parents are in love. In these households, constant fighting and other such things become commonplace. These kids are then raised in the faux-love SPAM thinking that those things exist in every loving couples relationship. So when they "fall in love", that kind of stuff is acceptable, helping this pandemic of intersubjectively understood love spread. On the other hand, I have noticed that these things are not commonplace for married couples that took their time, and made sure they were truly in love. These marriages are becoming infrequent, just adding to the problem.
Really good point. Excellent motherfucking point.

Young kids can fall in love, absolutely. It's an intense, primal, brutal love because it's not complicated by boundaries or social morays. Ever seen those videos where girls are tearing out their hair while Elvis is performing? Ever read Romeo and Juliet? Shakespeare nailed it on the head on the blind intensity of young people in love. It gets dangerous.

I remember the first guy I was in love with. I was in 7th grade. I toyed with him, broke his heart, and broke my own in the process. I remember being in so much pain, I thought my life was over. Where do you think bad teenage poetry comes from?

But what does this mean to the rest of us? We're not 14 anymore, and we've got our own lives and responsibilities and feelings to "guard." Love exists. However, I think society has defined "love" as more than just the primal chemical reaction. Just like we've clumped a legal union and a spiritual union under one term "marriage," the word "love" has taken on more than it can really handle.

Why is it so easy for love to turn to hate? The chemical reaction is so raw, that when compounded with all this societal responsibility, we can get hurt and turn to hate as a defense mechanism.

I don't believe in "true love." I believe all love is real, for if I conceded that I have loved falsely then I've also confirmed I think falsely. I still love all of my loves, though they are the few, the brave, and the proud.

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