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Is learning NLP worth it? I got some stuff on SS and all but NLP seems too hard, and not worth it. So is it?
It all depends on your motivation and intent. Most people get into pickup just so they can become more social and pick up chicks and generally become an overall happy, well-rounded guy. If this is you, NLP is probably not worth learning. It takes a lot of effort to learn Speed Seduction, whereas most of the standard game that's popular nowadays (such as the Mystery Method) is a lot more of a social discipline that's easier to get the hang of. Speed Seduction is a hypnotic discipline as opposed to a social one and involves a different kind of effort.
If you want to play around with your own mental capacity and be able to put people into trances where you can give them the gift of having their scopes and emotions expanded to new heights, that's where the realm of the Speed Seduction art comes in. I am personally very interested in NLP and SS because I have a passion for psychology and for understanding the human mind.
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Also, im having some trouble, I need to get out and talk to more women. I can open i got some good ones, I've got ESP, spells routine, bank robber one, I've got the cube, Ring routine and all that shit.
But when it comes down to it, I can't hold up 90% of the conversation.
Running out of things to say? Style recommends
slowing down your speech. Not only would this double the time you talk, it would make you more relaxed, which has a bunch of benefits. You also give yourself more time to come up with more spontaneous things to talk about.
Don't forget to multiple thread. Also, here's an article I wrote that may help you:
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Wasup PUAs,
I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I know I did! I was hanging out with some members from the group when all of a sudden this overweight blonde bursts in our scene at In-N-Out and opens our set saying something about her funny shirt...
Oh! did I mention that I got this great leather jacket from Calvin Klein at the outlet in Gilroy? Funny story, really. Y'see, it was originally $400 but my mothher miraculously haggled it down to a quarter of the price. Let me tell you the secret to how she did it...
but before I tell you, listen to this amazing news! The presentation of the Wild Chief Method went smoothly and the last @ meeting went great. A new guy was there, actually. Wondering who it is?
Wow, that's an interesting shirt you're wearing. The girl that opened us at In-N-Out was wearing this funny shirt and she just approaches us guys, obviously drunk, saying "WHO LOVES MY SHIRT?" HAHA so I put my bigass tophat on her head and I pulled it down over her face LOL.
The above is an example of "Multiple Threading" as described in VAH aka MM. You can see some obvious advantages to doing it: it builds suspense and leaves the target thinking that the two of you have a LOT to talk about (stronger rapport).
Should you always multiple thread? NO. That's called Attention Defecit Disorder (and if you DO have ADD this technique should be a LOT easier for you so you're at an advantage). For most of us guys, constant multiple threading can be overbearing and frankly quite a draining task.
Multiple threading consistently lacks closure for a build-up of suspense, but should you be doing this all the time? You actually don't have to do this. Mix up your multiple threading with other conversational strategies.
I was at a coffee shop with Vain earlier tonight and number-closed this HOT blonde sophomore from Panama, so I was PUMPED. Afterward, we sat outside next to this girl I knew. With my high energy it was easy to get into a talkative state. I wasn't multiple threading per say, but I did find myself naturally implementing a certain conversational strategy I read about several years ago.
Here's the strategy (I tried to find a source for this but many PUAs have talked about this and not one can take credit): Break up any sentence she says into separate elements. "I love it when my friends send me mail." From here, you can ask her about 1) things she loves, 2) her friends, 3) her mail, or talk about 4) things YOU love, 5) your friends, 6) your mail. Options 1-3 can get HER talking more, and 4-6 gives you opportunities to tell DHV stories. Also, you don't have to rely on what SHE says. You can break down any sentence YOU say to lead into different threads. You can either wait until she reaches some sort of closure in what she has to say or you can actually conclude what you're saying before moving onto the next topic (which you already have in mind), OR you can multiple thread. Using this strategy, you will NEVER run out of things to talk about until YOU CHOOSE to end the interaction. Use calibration to determine whether you should get her talking more about herself or if you should DHV.
Combine and balance this skill with your multiple threading for optimal effects. Every PUA is unique, so find your own special mix that works best for you.
Rock,
-Chief
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Anyway you can help me? I also am trying to get over a major one itis...
Thanks
Oneitis? GFTOW.
If you go fuck ten other women, you'll finally see that your oneitis girl isn't so "special" after all. If you find that you are UNABLE to go fuck ten other women, you should finally understand that the reason behind your oneitis is from having a scarcity mentality, therefore you need to just improve your
skill.
Hope that helped.