Hi Guys,

I meet a Nice girl on wednesday and have a nice funny conversation with her. I was not So interested and with other friends, So i left. When i got back hour later she was gone.

I meet the same girl two days later by accident, get the number instantly and end with big kclose

Today i mention i'll be in her city wednesday for sushi asked of the wants to come along => her: 'i already have plans on wednesday!'

This sounds like rejection, since no alternative is given. How to proceed, do i next this or better ideas?

Guys, stop making it difficult for yourself. When you do the "I'm doing X on X-day, come tag along" thing...logically, if the girl has plans...she cannot offer a reschedule. Logically, how is she supposed to offer an alternative to that? "I have plans on Wednesday...how about Friday...when you're not in my city on that day...and when you've already done the sushi" See how awkward that is? If you want to meet up, be direct and set it up. If you give a CASUAL invite, you'll get a CASUAL response.

^ Yeah, well said. I learned that if she says shes busy on X day, ask how about Y ?

That's why I don't like propositioning plans that way. Whether you ask if they are free, or tell them to come along with you at a specific time, they can always say they are busy. I'd prefer to just keep building rapport and hint at a meetup, and if possible, have them suggest the time and place.

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Hmm So give a Call on thursday and figure it out for the long weekend?

Send a text, so the date is locked in and you're not hemming and hawing over the phone.


"Hey XXX, let's grab a drink at Bar X, 9 pm on Saturday".

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Not necessarily a rejection, just don't think the K close is suppose to carry over and have any meaning on how she should be responding to you days later. Girls go out and have sex with guys that they decide they never want to see again. So what's a kiss?

As far as how you proceed: I personally would pick up the phone and call her to chat with her the next day, just to vibe and feel her out, but that seems to be something you guys don't do anymore. So you can spark up another text conversation with her the following day without asking her out. You don't want to be the guy that starts every conversation with " Hey how are you".. Her: " I'm fine.. you? " You: " Im great.. You wanna hang out today?". It doesn't work. It comes off pushy and unattractive. Learn to have a little conversation before you just jump into escalating the communication, just as you would converse with a girl a bit before you dive in for k/f close.

If theres no "spark" or no real "banter" between you guys at all either through text, phone call, or in person, what incentive is there to hang out? You still want to hangout because you want to get laid, but why would she? She gets several " come sleep with me" offers every single day. Whats in this for her? Make it interesting.

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