Guys, a lesson from me.....no matter what NEVER, EVER, LOSE FRAME!

Case in point. On sunday rye, zig, and myself witnessed a guy go to dance with a HB8.5. She turned away as he made his attempt. He didnt budge, it was like nothing happened. He kept dancing right up next to her....after 45 seconds, she started grinding with him, after 3 mins he K closed. After 10 mins her friends tried to pull her away and she pused them away. He started gaming a second girl as he was grinding with the first, and came dam near (i think he could have) making out with the second girl!

The key here is to NEVER lose frame. When things happen, make it like nothing happened. Dont be a whimp and go running after her if she ditchs you, but dont pussy out or go crazy kino'ing her if she talks to another guy.

It takes practice, but just dont do it!

Frame is VERY VERY VERY important, and a reason i have had so much success.

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Kinoescalator
5 for 5 MPUA

"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

Actually I have had this happen to me, I think it was last week a group of girls where in the bitch circle so when i would approach they would get the circle smaller, so what I did was just find a opening do a dance and leave and did it at that. One of them started to dance with me but I can tell that she was just with her friends I respect that.

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AA what, Im full PUA NOW BIOTCH!!!

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Good point, this is an area of my game that I need to work on.

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Be careful. I've seen a guy do the exact same thing with opposite results. The girls started pulling away from him, and when he didn't back off they all started laughing at him. He looked like an idiot to everyone in the room. Don't lose frame, but know to read the situation, too.

When I loose frame all my body language goes to hell. I have to work on it more.

Try this...
If you feel like you are getting froze out, just keep moving around the set. When a girl trys to blow you out just make fun of her attempt with sarcasm. Say, "Oh man that was so awesome how you did that whole We're trying to have a conversation thing with so much authority." Ask the friends, How they roll with someone who always has to get their way like their friend. Ok, maybe not these exact lines, but you get the idea.

The key to approaching this set is to come into it with more energy then the group of girls are displaying.

i disagree.. don't dance circles around the women like they are some tribal fire you are attempting to praise...

instead, turn around, grab a different HB, begin to dance with her and then the tribal circle will naturally begin to unfold and welcome you...

don't seek. I understand persistence but i don't understand following a group of girls, dancing around them in circles...

So, Bottom line: don't seek, don't do the tribal dance.. demonstrate higher value by actually demonstrating higher value via the next broad...

women chase what they can't have.... or what others are enjoying


Good hunting.

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I agree.
Cat-string theory all the way. Have it working for you, dont let them play you with it. When the set is too hostile, just eject. Sometimes girls are just having a bad day. nothing much you can do there. If you try too hard you wreck your value in the whole room trough DLV.

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Alpha - X

Don't hate the player - Hate the game!

Yep, I agree.
DHV as well. If a girl rejects you, just excuse yourself for the washroom and go talk to the girl who is 5 feet away. THat's DHV for both of them. THe first one will run after you when she thought you were going to the washroom, and the second will definitely talk to you because she just saw you talking to another hot girl.