I was watching Kong from Simple Pickup be his usual boss self here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOHuawIzEqs and there's not way some of what he says would work in Canada. Girls here are way more conservative than in LA. "I'll call you let's have an orgy later"? That would definitely creep out girls here.

I've just been doing very basic routines such as the compliment and walk routine and am afraid to try riskier lines. Can someone point me in the right direction here keeping in mind that girls here are conservative af?

For conservative girls in conservative communities, try propinquity. You'll need to realize though that there is a 4-minute disqualification period (human courtship pattern documented by scientific researcher Karl Grammer. In the pick up community, this is technically known as the shit test period). Once you breach that 4-minute mark without rejection, you can now build conversational comfort for the next 10 minutes. As a rule of thumb, you can escalate hardcore after 14 minutes.

If you're not so comfortable with rejection yet, you can sarge 10 to 20 girlie sets in a pattern like this:

First interaction per set: Polite greetings : 1 minute x 20 sets = 20 minutes = 80 to 100 girls
Second interaction per set: Polite greetings + small talk : 2 minutes x 20 sets = 40 minutes = 80 to 100 girls
Third interaction per set: Polite greetings + small talk + compliment : 2 minutes x 20 sets = 40 minutes = 80 to 100 girls

By the third interaction, you will have breached the 4-minute disqualification mark with zero rejection. For the fourth interaction, you build conversational comfort with the girls who gave you the strongest compliances or signs of submission.

Fourth interaction per set @2 girls per set: 5 minutes per girl x 2 per set x 20 sets = 200 minutes
Fifth interaction: Same as fourth interaction: 200 minutes

Total time investment prior to hardcore escalation = 500 minutes (8 hours, 20 minutes) for 40 girls
Average time investment per girl prior to hardcore escalation and isolation = 12.5 minutes per girl

Here's the bonus: Due to the massive social proof you've built with your regular sets (20 sets), you can easily instadate girls on the same venues who don't belong to your sets. It's even so much easier to escalate and isolate girls who don't belong to your set once they see 80 to 100 girls are extremely comfortable with you.

Bottomline: For a cumulative total of 8 hours and 20 minutes of your time, you can date 30 to 40 girls from your regular sets after 5 days of sarging AND instadate some 10 to 20 random girls within your sarging venues.

Your vibe is extremely important though. If you're a high testosterone guy with low levels of endorphins, the approach above is NOT for you because it relies a lot on a good vibe. Look for Ezo's exposition on Vibe Theory for greater depth of insight.

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I'm not really afraid of getting rejected. Maybe just subconsciously. I know who I am as a person and no rejection however harsh can change that. I'm more afraid of looking like an idiot in public and honestly am a little paranoid about getting the reputation of "the guy on campus that hits on girls and never gets any". I have no problem walking up to a girl with no one around and telling her that I think she's cute, even though it generally ends poorly. However, I absolutely cannot do that at say 11:25 am in the middle of campus when there's like 20 people around you always cause everyone's getting to their 11:30 class. I also think that direct approaching in that setting is bad because people can hear and it puts her on the spot.

The friend that pushed me to start day game suggested indirect opinion openers. You're suggesting polite greetings. Small talk, compliments, conversational comfort I understand how those work. Can you give a few examples of polite greetings? Are you basically just saying hi how's it going kinda thing? What I really wanna know is how the hell do you transition a polite greeting non-awkwardly into small talk when the girl is probably gonna be confused about why a stranger is talking to her.

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To give you a better idea of what I do, this is my usual routine that I've been doing to build up the confidence:

"Hi/excuse me, this is kind of random but I just wanted to tell you that you're very cute/pretty/gorgeous/whatever compliment."

Delivery must be a little off cause most just smile and say thanks then walk away, or sometimes (after the thank you which basically occurs always) I just say "no problem have a nice day!" then keep walking myself. The worst rejection was a very obviously sarcastic thanks, her rolling her eyes and walking away. Made me laugh.

My other routine that I occasionally use is to find a girl sitting down, sit down in the empty seat across from her and say the same line. It usually is more poorly received cause I guess in this case I'm inserting myself into their area and they don't have an easy exit. Instead of smiles and thank yous I'm getting a lot more blank stares and "OK...?" 's.

Anyways my friend says I exit sets way too early and to let her leave or tell you to leave. Maybe by saying "I just wanted to tell you etc" I'm already framing it so that she's expecting the interaction to be just a compliment.

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You're saying to slide that compliment a few minutes into the interaction instead of right off the bat in conservative communities. I will try to do that. The main problem here is being able to non-awkwardly get to that point. I feel like once I get the ball rolling past the 30 second mark and she's still interested in the interaction I can get to the 4 minute mark easily. Unfortunately out of the 50 or so sets I've done so far most were < 30 seconds and I can only recall 3 being > 4 minutes.

See? The approach per the guidance of your friend has a very low success rate and it's kinda negatively impacting your social proof instead of enhancing it. It's about time you tried something else. If the approach I'm recommending above gets you a higher success rate, then you can focus on it. If not, try another approach. Success Rate = Number of instadates over total number of girls interacted with.

General Gist:

1. Break it down into 5 interactions spreadout over one week.

2. Start small with your convo and build from there as the interactions pile up. It's kind of a conversational escalation.

First Interaction: Hi!

Second Interaction: Good morning. You'll be late for class already. Have a nice day.

Third Interaction: Great morning. Wow. You look awesome today! Let me guess? You're into yoga. Hey, we'll be late for class. See you later.

Fourth Interaction: Hi there. What's your major by the way? Oh, I'm NPG. You seem like seriously intent on finishing your studies as soon as possible, graduating? Yadah. Yadah. Yadah.

Fifth interaction: Good afternoon (her name. This time mention her name.) [ I dreamt about you. It's kind of weird. I'll tell you about it. Let's get some coffee. Yadah. Yadah. Yadah.] [Have you seen a black rose before? Not yet? I'll show you one then. Let's go over there. Yadah. Yadah. Yadah.]

3. There's a major nonverbal component in item #2 above. Verbal is indirect while the nonverbal is direct.

4. Girls will react. Screen in girls who give signs of compliance or submission. Focus your time and effort on them from the fourth interaction onwards.

5. You are building comfort via propinquity; hence, you can escalate fast.

I'm not sure about your visual displays and visual reads if these are on point. These will play very important roles in the approach described above.

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I'll roll my eyes out of orbit one of these days if you guys keep posting stuff like this.

Dude, unless you live in the middle east, where women can and will literally be killed for looking or talking to a man that's not their husband, pointing fingers at culture is NOT acceptable.

That said, the reactions you get will vary based on two factors.
1) How congruent the shit you say is with your personality. Aka how you say it.
2) How compatible your humor is with hers.

That's it. Culture has nothing to do with it. You saw Kong in a youtube video posting a successful interaction. You think 100% of the girls he approaches respond as well?

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Always test and see what happens infield, NPG. At the end of the day, what happens infield that gets you laid is the ultimate truth. Everything else is just a matter of opinion. Even what I posted in your thread is just a matter of opinion. It works well for me but it may not work well for you. Just go ahead and do it. If it works for you better than the first approach that you've been doing, well and good. If not, try another approach. It's useless hammering your head with something that only works 6% (as to sets, 1.5% as to girls) of the time. Move forward to the next approach. If the next approach doesn't work better as the first one (even if it's mine), dump it too.

50 sets is a lot. Testing on 10 to 20 sets will already give you a clear picture if a pick up method works well or not. A 10% success rate is already good enough for fine tuning. Don't get trapped by rhetorics. Your infield tests results is really what matters. 8 instadates out of 20 sets (8 girls out of 80) should be a good baseline.

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