I feel as though I actually had a good shot at achieving my goal last night. I hope I get another shot this year otherwise i'll regret my decision.

Anyway, here's the story.

Went to a different town last night.
Immediately different, less hostile vibe in terms of the girls. It's a posher town.

I know people say you shouldn't blame your logistics etc, but I live in a rough area and It often seems like if you aren't 6ft plus and haven't got a skinhead and neck tattoos and an extensive criminal record, then girls dismiss you quickly or feel entitled to be rude. They aren't like that with intimidating looking guys, though.

Anyway, in the first bar there was LOTS of beautiful young girls everywhere. I had bad AA, although, once again, I was able to notice that the source of it was more 'my friends' as opposed to 'the girls'. I fear them watching me get rejected more than the girls rejecting me! I don't approach. Feels bad. Did I mention that there were 8's/9's everywhere!?


Next bar//
My friends are all outside smoking and there's a hot girl near me close to the bar. I open her:
''Hey, you! I need your help''
''What's up?''
''Where's good to go In this 2-horse town? I'm not from around here''
She laughs.
She asks me where i'm from and stuff and I kino her a little bit immediately. She asks my name and I tell her that I can' tell her because I don't want her stalking me on facebook. She seems to find this hilarious and is kinoing me. Then she tells me that she's married but that she's got some cute friends that are single. I tell her that she's the only one for me and hug her. She's super giggly. My friends come back in from their smoke and tell me they want to go too a different bar. I say goodbye to the girl.

next bar//
It feels like them sort of bars you see on PUA vids in Eastern Europe. once again, my friends don't want too approach, I see a gorgeous blonde girl with wavy hair sitting down and she's glued too her phone.
I open her.
''Hey! It's a great app, isn't it!?''
''What is?!!''
''Tinder!! I saw you swiping away. You can't fool me!''
''haha!! No!! shows me her phone and she's messaging her boyfriend
Pretty much a lost cause but we chat briefly. I tell her she's cute and that's why I approached her and she lights up. Genuinely pleased. She asks me questions and says that i'm cute and that she's flattered. I guess I left her better than when I met her which is better than nothing. I go back to my friends.

next bar//
My friend is at the bar getting served and there's 2 girls near him. THEY kind of open HIM (he's pretty handsome and married. The rich get richer!! Smile).
One is fairly pretty but is a little bit fat. Like, not actually 'fat', but certainly not skinny. Fairly pretty face though, which I like. The other isn't my type at all.
I open the prettier, fatter one.
''Hi! Are you being nice to my friend??''
''No! We're being mean to him''
''I've met girls like you before. Bullies!''
We kind of hit it off immediately and they follow us back to our part of the bar where me and my friends were prior. We branch off. The girl in the glasses is talking to my other AFC mates, and i'm flirting with the prettier (yet fatter) one.
She's asking me lots of questions. I accuse her of flirting with me and fancying me.
She plays along and sort of roleplays? ''Yeah, I think you'er amazing!''
I say ''Tell me the 3 things that you like so much about me'' (i'm just being a dick, pretending that I love myself and putting her under pressure like i'm interviewing her)
She tells me that she thinks i'm smart and a few other things.
I'm kinoing her a fair bit now. Unsure how to gage her since she isn't touching me back at all, although she hasn't left (which RSDMax says is the biggest IOI)

It's late and we all leave together, I assume to get a cab (remember we're away from out town) but than the girl with glasses mentions that she has some drinks at her place. (these 2 girls live together)
I'm walking with the prettier one. We are laughing and talking and we slightly 'fall back' from the rest of the group.

I go for the kiss. Denied!!! (she pulls away and turns her head)

I made it a resolution to be more brave in terms of going for the kiss so that I don't wake up with regrets. To be honest, It wasn't that bad. I just laughed it off and then started talking about something else that made her laugh whilst also kind of touching her and pushing her away from me in a playful manner.

We get back to their place and i'm sitting on the couch, flirting with my girl and the other girl is kinod of sitting on her own and my friends are all just sitting around not doing much, and almost immediately they talk about getting a cab home.
There's no way I can afford a cab home on my own.
They all leave the room to do something (I forget what) and the girl asks me if I'm staying or going. She's basically asking me to stay. I tell her i'm not sure.

I go for the kiss again. Success. We kiss for a bit and it's nice.

I let down my fellow posters here as I end up leaving with my friends.

I feel it was basically 'in the bag' but between the skinful of alcohol, the fact that she wasn't completely my type, and the fact that I didn't want to be stranded out of town and pay a fortune to get home on my own meant that I decided to turn down the 80%+ possibility of sex and share a cheap cab with my friends.

THOUGHTS:
I failed to implement my 'always open in a funny/roleplay type way'. I almost forgot about it in the heat of the moment.
Fairly successful overall compared to usual in terms of zero bad reactions to my approaches. However, I can't pat myself on the back too much as i'm certain it's down to location.
I wish I could remember more of exactly what I said in the interactions since it was all positive last night.

It's weird how sitting here now I kind of can't imagine being able to sustain a long conversation with a stranger and don't know what to say, but in the moment, It seemed fairly easy last night. I just remember lots of talking/flirting/and laughing on the girls part.

I feel like you did a great job here. Multiple positive interactions. Suggestion - even though they are married/taken you should STILL invite them to hang with you. Even if you have no intentions of anything sexual, it increases YOUR value if you have a bigger mixed group, and increases your chances of meeting even more new people.

Your night out shows that your vibe is MORE IMPORTANT than what you say. While you can convey the funny/roleplay thing in words, it's even stronger when your vibe and personality are congruent with that type of attitude.

On another note, LOGISTICS are probably the most important part of getting laid. Nobody seems to mention it, but it makes a huge difference. Plan out your logistics better if you're aiming for a one night stand - how you're getting home, how to get to hers, etc.

Good job, keep improving, work through the bad nights, and capitalize on the good ones!

Thanks. As you can see though, I appear to have took a step back on my most recent night out. At least that's how it feels based on the reactions I got, but then I don't feel as though I changed anything from the more 'successful' night.

It can start to feel like it's completely out of your hands and simply a matter of whether the girl is friendly/sociable/approachable or not! But that idea doesn't sit particularly well with me either, because it both implies that there isn't much of a skill too it as well as making it kind of impossible to learn much from both good and bad interactions!

It is also a skill to know WHO will be best likely to accept your advances!

Develop both your "all around" game, but also know which girls suit you, and what type of girl prefers YOU.

You need to be more outcome independent.

But can you really know that without talking to them first? Just by looking at them and their body language?

Funny this is that with the girl from the other night with the fur coat on who literally ignored me after I attempted to talk to her a few times, I could maybe sense that she didn't want to be approached, but only going by her serious expression and how she wasn't looking around the bar at all. I was right.

However, the girl from gorgeous blonde from the previous night also had a fairly serious look on her face and was fixated on her phone but her friendly, positive reaction really shocked me!

I think my problem is just partly that i'm still too sensitive to rejection. Particularly just being ignored like i'm a complete oddball talking in a Foreign language! I guess I let it effect me too much, but I find it hard NOT too!

One part of me thinks ''I must have done something drastically wrong despite smiling and using a friendly, observational opener. What though??''

And the other part thinks ''She just wasn't approachable and nothing I could have said, even if I was installed with the best 'game' in the world could have changed how she reacted. You can't make someone like you, like the RSD guys say''

I guess the problem with the second mindset is that, even though it feels better, one could delude themselves into thinking that they are never doing anything wrong. Like ''I've been rejected/ignored for the last 2000 approaches, but I guess they were just all 'no girls'. All unapproachable and nothing I could have done would have changed that!'' when in reality, you surely shouldn't be getting rejected (especially ignored) so often.

Now, I know i'm over-reacting and it was literally only a handful of girls ignoring me, but the concept remains

And 'bad nights' put me in my head so much for the following night. Like, at this second, i'm finding myself obsessing over 'what to say to open a girl in a pub!!??' again.

But can you really know that without talking to them first? Just by looking at them and their body language?

I guess the problem with the second mindset is that, even though it feels better, one could delude themselves into thinking that they are never doing anything wrong.

Like, at this second, i'm finding myself obsessing over 'what to say to open a girl in a pub!!??' again.

Went out last night too a local bar. Not many girls there unfortunately. Opened the only group of girls sitting together that I could see, none of whom were particularly hot and were older than what I like (even though they were probably younger than me! lol)

I had a 'ready made' opener which was nice, since they had just been doing a pub quiz whivh gave me a kind of 'natural' opener.
I was able to make them laugh a bit and stuff, but when I tried to be a little bit flirty with the prettiest one, she (at least rather politely) told me she wasn't interested

Re-downloaded tinder a few days back and used up all my swipes both times. Still No matches!! Grrrr. (annoying as tinder is the only way that more or less EVERY GUY I know in real life gets laid)

Hopefully out tomorrow night again to make more approaches in my quest for a lay in 2017

tinder is the only way that more or less EVERY GUY I know in real life gets laid

You should probably meet new guys then. Broaden your horizon. Tinder isn't available in my country and guys STILL GET LAID.

And before you say that things are "different" in the UK, I have lived in the UK for a couple years (on and off until 2015) , got laid, never used Tinder!

Hey, man. You mean try to somehow meet new guy friends who get laid without using tinder and then go out with them to learn from them or something? Like try to make new guy friends and then ask them about where their lays come from and take it from there?

I mean I woudn't say it's a UK thing, but have you ever read teh rooshV pickup forum? (specifically the 'i just go laid' thread?)
I'd say about 85% of the lays are through tinder, and these guys are suppoesdly players/pickup artists!! So you can imagine how guys who don't know about 'game' would naturally veer towards it in favour of cold approach/

But, yeah - It's a moot point anyway. I HAVE tinder and use up all of my swipes each day and get more or less zero matches, so either way, it's COLD APPROACH for me!!

cheers

Hey, man. You mean try to somehow meet new guy friends who get laid without using tinder and then go out with them to learn from them or something?

have you ever read teh rooshV pickup forum? (specifically the 'i just go laid' thread?)

I HAVE tinder and use up all of my swipes each day and get more or less zero matches, so either way, it's COLD APPROACH for me!!

Exactly. Use the wingman forums and see if you can find some good wingmen in your area.

No I haven't

Nothing is wrong with broadening your horizons. You could be scoring both online AND offline. How's your profile?