Good post Durus. Im between 5'5" and 5'7" depending on posture. I used to always feel at a disadvantage cause of my height. Then one day i realized it was all in my head. Height does have a ton to play into it though. "Tall dark and handsome" is what women always say, which is complete bullshit.

I did game this gorgeous blonde hb a couple weeks ago, got her number and she is easily 6'. She was all smiles the whole time, and height was never even considered an issue.

Height is all in your head. Its a non factor, because how you carry yourself is going to be more important than anything else.

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im in highschool im 14 and 6ft''2 tall ive had girls notice im tall before ive had girls say and i quote "your tall" ive never ever, ever had one girl say anything bad whatso ever or anything that could be remotly related to my hieght thats bad and, if you work out your obviosly not gonna be a less muscley tall guy. dum ass study if you ask me,cieling effect my ass

I think it's pretty funny how people discount THE study! It's 16 sources that have come up with similar finding. The ceiling effect calls for heights much above 6' mark. For example 6'7" then tall is not an asset anymore, similarly, 5'5" isnt an asset either. So the short and tall of it it's a disadvantage the more you move from 6 feet AND you must also consider that women prefer men to be closer to 2-4 inches taller then them.

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Well put at the end there rotor.

And Darus you are so right, im glad you reminded me of this. I've even had a girl say to me 'i normally dont like guys coming up and talking to me in bars, but i was'nt intimadated by you...'.
I believe my approach had alot to do with it but i also feel like my height was also partly to do with it. It was a smooth pick up, and the guy she was with must have been about 6'3.
Im about 5'7 maybe 5'8? I've pulled many girls taller than me. But height is a factor.

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I think you're missing the counterpoint.

First of all, having 16 sources that come to a similar conclusion is hardly a significant fact. The scientific community is notorious for being extremely conservative in their conclusions. Just remember that it wasn't until Copernicus in the early 16th century that western science took the idea of a heliocentric solar system seriously, despite the fact that the Greeks had already proposed the same hypothesis over a millenium prior.

Second of the STUDIES provided the only one with a remotely signficant sample size was 270 couples from a bank roster. To extrapolate that data into a generalization of female preferences in a sexual partner is a huge stretch by any reasonably minded individual's standards.

Third, and most importantly, who cares what her "preference" is. As an alpha male, she is living in MY reality. SHE has to meet MY selection criteria.

Height is only relevant in the opening because she has almost nothing else to establish your individual identity other than your physical appearance, body language, and social context (with this being a wildly varying factor dependant upon the nature of the approach, ie day game vs night game)

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LOL rotor you must be like 4 foot ten to take this so personally. Height does play a role but does not mean everything... we know this ... thank you

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I had a mate who 6'4, but he was crap with women. I would always be the one they showed more attention to and felt more at ease around me. So i can understand the ceiling effect thing. There are disadvantages and advantages with both. Some guys can be too tall for some girls too. So dont make this out to be some problem if you think is it. I think anywhere inbetween 5'7 and 6'1 is a good height to be at. And as we are know, appearance is only one of the things that makes them feel attraction towards us.

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i'm 5'10 and 17 years old (is there still a chance for me to grow if my dad is 5'10.3 and my mom is 5'4?? just curious)and although i have always gotten girls, I can also tell that height would help even more at times. But if ur madd alpha and got tons of charisma then there really shouldn't be a problem.

If you're 17 and 5'10 you should grow to about 5'11 or 6ft. But really its hard to tell. They say you grow up until you're 21, but i stopped growing at 18. Basically you wont that much taller now, maybe not at all, it all depends on the person.
Im 5'8 the same as my dad and my mum's 5'1, but if my mum was let's say 5'6, then i would have been taller than my dad.

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I find my height to be advantageous as well (6'4" but still growing, hopefully not too much)

I think the study doesn't apply to us because most guys aren't PUA's

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If you're 5'7 you could always turn into a Bob Sanders or MJD

Bob Sanders for the win!

Interesting facts ... I'm 6 ft.

But come on guys really who cares about if the girl your approaching is taller than you...

Everything is about how you carry yourself, I have been with a lot of girls taller than me and they don't seem to mind.

IF you have a problem with your height... use boots and work in your inner game.

I'm sorry, few times I post negative things but... I don't see why so much information on a thing that will make new guys hesitate on to approach or not because of their height, they have enough AA problems, to add another problem.

Follow the 3 sec rule if you can but for god sake DO NOT wait there looking at her trying to figure out if she si taller than you... come on!!!

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I guess that's where I differ from the crowd and from mainstream PUA. I researched all this stuff when I was dating and it never really bothered me to acknowledge the facts. I'm 5'9" tall and since I am taller then the average girl then I never felt disadvantaged. There was a huge marketplace for me even though I never tried for taller girls. Hey, I love tall women, but I do respect that my odds would be much lower on a taller woman. I don't see how it is a bad thing to realize this as a general rule of the game.

I guess you wont like my article about socioeconomic status when I put that one out either, but to each his own. I didn't play the rules like every other sucker AFC (a word that didn't exist yet), but I did respect certain key norms, that from research, proved to be universally true. In the end, it just save me time and energy. Go for girls 2-4 inches shorter and watch your odds increase. If you are really short, go for girls the same height or shorter. If you are short, get some lifts or work really hard on inner game. Scoring numbers and dates is one thing, developing a relationship with a girl that is taller for any length of time, is quiet another.

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