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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:22 am 
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Been talking to a girl I work with( I know,  don't shit where you eat..blah blah blah) But, she is super cute(8.5) kinda shy as well,  She has been giving IOI'S to me on occasion,  I passed them off because I didn't wanna get involved with the whole work together thing. 


Eventually realised how sweet, and kind hearted she is so I thought I'd take her out,  and get myself a winter wife.  Her and I had a little inside joke about how I'm always drinking coffee,  so every now and then she would bring me coffee, and I'd bring her some.  So I asked her out to coffee. 

Me: Hey, wanna grab some coffee after work??
Her: sure!

After a while she sent me a semi long text saying

Her:  "Hey,  I just wanna say.  I don't usually go out with people I work with, it's not something I'm usually comfortable with, I mean, I'll go, but I don't know how I feel about it to be honest.  "

So I just thought to myself, SERIOUSLY??...it's coffee,  we're not getting married.  So I let her know I don't want her to be uncomfortable blah blah blah


Few weeks go by,  I ask her again,  she says yes!!! So we plan a day.

Day of she cancells, BUT rescheduled to the following morning,  

Following morning,  she cancells but then asks when I'm gonna be free again.....

I wanna say she flaked, but she is rescheduling??? So I got kinda pissed and sent her this -

Me: " tell me what a good day and time would be to meet,  and we can just plan for then,  my schedule is mostly free and flexible.  And I know you are a busy bee. :)  So look at your schedule, and tell a time that works for you.  "

Her: "Ok"

I'm still waiting for her to get back to me (hasn't even been 24 hours)

I'm not really an AFC, but I'm enjoying the game.  And I would of dropped this by now and moved on, but I'm thinking about using this opportunity for all of us to learn from, by  pursuing this with whatever advice I can get, to test out some methods.  

So my question is,

A: Is she flaking?? Even though she is trying to reschedule?

B: am I in the wrong for passing off her low investment for shyness??

C: What's my next move?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:26 am 
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Bugsy117: Ayy, if you wanna gimme some input on a fun situation I'm in, I'd appreciate it man
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(20:03:36) Blacksky: well bugsy my boy
(20:03:45) Blacksky: it ha snot even been a day
(20:04:10) Blacksky: just wait for her to get back to you and if she doesn't get back to you then don;t sit there asking her over and over if you are going to go for coffee
(20:13:48) Blacksky: the ball is in her court and if you sit there trying to force the issue and trying to get her to say yes then you will come across as needy and desperate and this will in turn lead her to most likely say no


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:44 am 
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Eventually realised how sweet, and kind hearted she is so I thought I'd take her out,  and get myself a winter wife.  Her and I had a little inside joke about how I'm always drinking coffee,  so every now and then she would bring me coffee, and I'd bring her some.  So I asked her out to coffee. 
*groan*

Too boring, too sweet. And "winter wife" seems bit weird for someone you've never banged, makes you seem thirsty, lol. But I get your gist. Winter is kind lame without a girlfriend.
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Her:  "Hey,  I just wanna say.  I don't usually go out with people I work with, it's not something I'm usually comfortable with, I mean, I'll go, but I don't know how I feel about it to be honest."
Courteous but nervous. How I'd respond:

"Yeah, I don't usually go out with co-workers either, so let's go in. Have you seen The 100 on Netfix? My place, tonight. You've got the popcorn."
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So I just thought to myself, SERIOUSLY??...it's coffee,  we're not getting married. 
Then why are you acting like she left you at the altar? And you did say you wanted a winter wife.


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Day of she cancells, BUT rescheduled to the following morning,  

Following morning,  she cancels but then asks when I'm gonna be free again.....

I wanna say she flaked, but she is rescheduling??? So I got kinda pissed and sent her this -

Me: " tell me what a good day and time would be to meet,  and we can just plan for then,  my schedule is mostly free and flexible.  And I know you are a busy bee. :)  So look at your schedule, and tell a time that works for you.  "

Her: "Ok"

I'm still waiting for her to get back to me (hasn't even been 24 hours)
You repeated yourself like a nut job (bolded text), and dribbled word diarrhea everywhere. It looks needy. The "busy bee" phrase is weird. And the smiley face? Why? You're a grown man. Don't use emoticons with women. You have shit to do. Text new and new-ish women like you're in bed with three hot women:


Co-worker: Hey, I can't make it today. When are you free again?

You: Ah, I'm slammed with all kinds of good stuff this week. I'll hit you up when I get free. Have a good one.


See the difference between your bitch-ass text and mine? Mine gets me laid a week, two weeks or a month down the road, and I can text the woman on my terms, shifting the power. Yours creeps out the girl because it infers a lack of options and impatience. And women are not dumb. They are more intelligent than most men. You don't need to repeat things to them over text. Respect their intelligence and time by being direct and to the point, and they'll respect you by unzipping your pants

Your next move is chilling. You gave her all the power. Hit the gym, game other women. The better you look, and the more aloof you remain,the more she'll swing off her side of the fence into your pasture.

It's important to remain emotionally-centered with women. It's probably the #1 reason why it's always women that do the dumping.

Also, fuck the god damn coffee dates. Clearly they are a flop and the inside story about bringing each other coffee is played out. She may be waffling on morning/afternoon meets because she just wants sex, and her repeated blow offs of the coffee dates might also just be a test to see if you're centered (which you've failed, lol). Invite her over to your house around 9-10 pm for a movie in two weeks after no contact. If she won't go, game other women.

Attractive women, consciously and subconsciously have radars for dominant men. Any hint of weakness is seen as a hint at the bigger picture. If you're not dominant in leading a date in the evening, you're probably not dominant in bed, etc. You'd be surprised at what getting to the fucking point will get you.

"Hey, celebrating good news with a movie tonight at my place. You're welcome to join".

Just send that text out to all your prospects. Escalate with the girls that show up, delete the rest. Get to the fucking point. Life is short. Too short for five finger rosey. If no women show up, get more numbers.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:15 am 
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Hey guys! Thanks for the input!
You are totally right arch, that's what I needed. I need to stop being a pussy and grow a pair, I'm gonna just wait it out and definitely use your "pretend I'm in bed with 3 hot women." Approach. That's a great way to look at it.


As for coffee dates, I agree, the shit just gets wierd. I'll start avoiding these.


I appreciate the input! I'll give it a few weeks and let you guys know where my bitch ass let this end up! Haha.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:57 am 
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I appreciate the input! I'll give it a few weeks and let you guys know where my bitch ass let this end up! Haha.

Haha, you're welcome. And I certainly don't think you're a bitch ass. I just used that term to prove a point with a bad text. We all fuck up from time to time. The bummer is the 9's and 10's allow for fewer fuck ups.

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