General questions from Sunday football day. I went out to a bar that is always crowded on that day.

I noticed a group of 2 girls that seemed passive. Like they were just waiting for someone or something to take them to excitement. One was hot, the other not. Some guys (a group of 6-8) came talking to them. I watched seeing if it would turn into anything. At first it seemed like it wouldn't. Then, I noticed they were gone. Did they go fuck those guys? Do go their apartment? Pool? How do I know?

Every girl I meet will wonder why I'm hanging out by myself. I realized that I hate myself for being so introverted, shy, quiet, like a nerd, etc.

Most guys and girls out come and leave with who they came with, but maybe they wished otherwise.

what how the hell are we suppose to know what some random girls in some random place did? mayb they left with them mayb they didnt but you know u gotta get outa your own head and go talk to some girls man. Even if you crash and burn which you will at first its better than knowing you didnt try and by burning you will grow a thicker skin so forget those girls and go and find some you can acutlaly talk to

Probably. Why does it matter?

The less attractive they were, the more likely they banged someone.

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She was really attractive, and I thought I was better than those guys.

But they were extroverted party type. This type of thing gets to me.

You whine a lot.

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I bet she fucked at least 2 of the group.

This has me thinking about what Eddie said about some people having fathers and some not.

Maybe she sucked off the whole group. I saw her without her friend at the bar, maybe she did something at the bar.

You do realize your attitude is why you're not getting results, right?

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I don't.

Can you be more specific. I'd appreciate it.

I just can't stop thinking of that hot girl probably sucking off 2 guys at their after party. Maybe it's just in my head and they did nothing. How would anyone know besides them? They couldn't.

Why did you sit there long enough for the other group to come? Why didn't you approach the group of 8?

You have the largest Madonna-Whore complex I've ever seen online. Also, you need a wingman. Or just a buddy to go out with you. It's not necessary but I think it will keep you more positive.

Remember to follow these basic rules for approaches. They will get you in and out so you can get over your approach anxiety.
1. 3 second rule - You see a hot girl you say hi so fully engage within 3 seconds
2. Give the girls an artificial time limit (I ordered some cheese fries and I don't want the waitress to lose track of me.)
3. Sit down if they are sitting, stand if they are standing (Majority rules)
4. Be prepared to demonstrate value right away (For instance talking about the team) and,
5. Be prepared to receive value from them. (Don't be shocked when they respond well)

There are many more things there but if you remember those four you can socialize with any group.

I don't know what to say after the "hi" other than the boring conversation I talked about in another thread. Interrogation questions.

Nor do I know how to demonstrate value without bragging about myself and I'm not sure I have anything to brag about.

read, "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie and apply it when you go out to talk to people.