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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:13 pm 
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Ok so this is a recurring theme in my efforts. I always have amazing first and second dates but afterwards her enthusiasm dies over text.
For my latest catch, I had her saying 'I like you a lot' with tons of intimate hugging & kino on the 1st date. Tons of IOIs.
In the 2nd date we were making out heavily but I think I may have escalated too quickly.
The situation now is that she doesn't want to meet just yet because 'it's too fast'
I'm not needy in texts. After a lukewarm response the last few texts, I've decided to stop contacting her for a week. Just to note, she does reply almost immediately whenever I do text.
I already know to slow down escalation for future dates. I'm out socialising & meeting other girls too. How should I proceed with this particular lady though?
Edit: I played it cool in my last text saying 'see you in a month'. She replied 'sure :)'. If she's willing to go a month without contact, I should next her right?


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In the 2nd date we were making out heavily but I think I may have escalated too quickly.
What makes you think so? Explain.

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Sounds like you should be going for the lay on date one vs playing around.

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In the 2nd date we were making out heavily but I think I may have escalated too quickly.
What makes you think so? Explain.
We didn't even kiss on date 1 because she wanted to go slowly. By date 2 I feeling her up everywhere, dry humping with her as well as making out. Probably scared her off a bit.


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We didn't even kiss on date 1 because she wanted to go slowly.
How did you figure this out on the first date?

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We didn't even kiss on date 1 because she wanted to go slowly.
How did you figure this out on the first date?
She told me several times as I tried several times.


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We didn't even kiss on date 1 because she wanted to go slowly.
How did you figure this out on the first date?
She told me several times as I tried several times.
Sounds like you found yourself a time waster. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but those require you to build a solid connection. Something that you can be on the same page with her. Something that you could have built on is her reasoning on why she is wanting to go slow. Then you can tell her, "I get that," and agree with her then add to her rationale behind it. Once she understands that you guys are thinking alike is when you start pulling her where you want to go because she is "so hard to resist".

I need to add that you should be treating her more like a girlfriend during a date, i.e. holding hands. If you're treating her like a girlfriend she's going to adopt the attitude of a girlfriend. So when you do start the "hard to resist" attitude, she'll be looking at you as the guy she is going out with rather than the guy she's getting to know.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:56 pm 
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Ok so this is a recurring theme in my efforts. I always have amazing first and second dates but afterwards her enthusiasm dies over text.
Do you know how your first or second date was amazing?

The girl unzips your pants.

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The situation now is that she doesn't want to meet just yet because 'it's too fast'
Translation: "I have other dates this week, and I want to see if they are better."

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Edit: I played it cool in my last text saying 'see you in a month'.
That wasn't playing it cool. That was a needy, butt-hurt text. I'm guessing this neediness was on display during the dates, thus her resistance to sex.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:33 am 
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Once she understands that you guys are thinking alike is when you start pulling her where you want to go because she is "so hard to resist".

I need to add that you should be treating her more like a girlfriend during a date, i.e. holding hands. If you're treating her like a girlfriend she's going to adopt the attitude of a girlfriend. So when you do start the "hard to resist" attitude, she'll be looking at you as the guy she is going out with rather than the guy she's getting to know.
Interesting. Please expand on the 'hard to resist' route.


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Do you know how your first or second date was amazing?

The girl unzips your pants.
The only amazing dates are the ones where you get laid?


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Translation: "I have other dates this week, and I want to see if they are better."
Yes. Definitely possible.
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That wasn't playing it cool. That was a needy, butt-hurt text. I'm guessing this neediness was on display during the dates, thus her resistance to sex.

Please explain how it was needy and how to improve on that? She said she wanted space so I gave her space. Thank you for your input.


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Once she understands that you guys are thinking alike is when you start pulling her where you want to go because she is "so hard to resist".

I need to add that you should be treating her more like a girlfriend during a date, i.e. holding hands. If you're treating her like a girlfriend she's going to adopt the attitude of a girlfriend. So when you do start the "hard to resist" attitude, she'll be looking at you as the guy she is going out with rather than the guy she's getting to know.
Interesting. Please expand on the 'hard to resist' route.
It's simple push/pull. You start ramping up escalation but pull back before she can stop you. When you pull back you let her know how tempting she is but you are trying to control yourself.

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The only amazing dates are the ones where you get laid?

Yes. Or blown. And it's not just because of the release. It's because that is how you know a girl REALLY likes you.

That's it.

Until it gets physical, everything else is bullshit for two reasons: A girl invests with her body, and "she's the one, first date was heavenly" outlooks early on will have her running away from you. I see this kind of talk from guys who have "great dates" but never end up even getting a hand job from the girl, and then the contact goes south (just like your situation), and then she's just gone:

"Wow, we really clicked. She has similar viewpoints. We really vibed."

"We had an awesome date! Really just amazing. We were on the same page on so man levels. I really like her, and she likes me, too!"

Until she takes the initiative to at least give you a hand job, she doesn't like you that much. And a "it's going too fast" line in 2016 is a blatant excuse.
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Please explain how it was needy and how to improve on that? She said she wanted space so I gave her space. Thank you for your input.
Remember, I'm not putting you down. I'm just being honest to save your time and mine. The "see you next month" line infers she doesn't see/contact you enough to your liking. It's a hint at neediness.

Always avoid alluding to disappointment early on, ESPECIALLY in the context of meeting up and sex.

I've dumped girls for being this needy this soon. I couldn't make a second date because I was busy, and I got this text:

"Well, that's disappointing. Are you always like this?"

I ghosted her. Imagine how this person would be a month from now if she's already this naggy before the 2nd date. Nag City.

You want to be the chill, fun guy. Be aloof.

This may sound shallow, but this is what works early on.

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have been at the same spot so many times. To the point where the distinction between a girl who is into you and who is not, is like day and night. I like how someone said that they only way you can tell if a girl likes you is if she gives you a bj or you get laid, everything is BS.

I like that...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:08 am 
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Thanks for your input guys. I'll give it a week, maybe more and make a quick call to her.


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Thanks for your input guys. I'll give it a week, maybe more and make a quick call to her.
In that week, find other girls.

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