Jack zero I get what you're saying and I totally agree with you. I hope you quit trying to explain to the other guy because I don't think he wants to understand what you're saying because you say it pretty clearly.

Guys, it's okay to flirt with a girl when you first meet her. It's flattering to know that a guy is instantly attracted to us and if you can communicate it well it is endearing.
Just to let you know, when men approach us we know it's because they are sexually attracted to us. Like you said, we aren't stupid. We aren't wary about being used for sex because we won't allow it to happen if we don't want it to. If we think that it's possible for a guy to be only about sex and we still have sex with him, that means we knew that there was a risk there and thought it was worth the risk. Who do you think is more likely to be the guy that's tricked us into sex? The guy who seemed to show genuine interest in us because of a connection or the guy who flirted with us and shown a sexual vibe?

Your post isn't about "us" (women) it's about "me" (you and your lifestyle).

You'll ignore the prospects of long-term compatibility, along with ignoring the guys who pay attention to long-term compatibility, sleep with the guy who is "fun," get knocked up, collect government benefits as a single mom, and then maybe get your act together...

Next, you'll find the guy who showed a genuine interest in you on Facebook and start hitting "Like" on everything he posts, hoping he'll notice you again and help you raise your kid with his stable job (his people-pleasing behavior probably indicates he came from a family that encouraged him to contribute to society). He'll be too busy working on the late-model younger women to pay attention to you, by then.

You'll put as much thought into sexuality as most people put into a microwave burrito, essentially.

Afterwards, you'll put as much thought into the consequences as most people put into their New Year's workout program.

You don't speak for all women.

Not all women think this way. I would imagine that someone who crossed the globe to study medicine has some degree of foresight.

You completely misunderstood the point. It was about honesty and sexuality. There are girls that get tricked into sex because the guy presents himself as a guy that wants to build a future with her. She puts her trust in him and once he has sex with her he's onto the next girl. That is tricking a girl into sex. Then there is a guy that's up front about his desire for sex and won't try to pretend that he's in it for the long haul. If a girl has sex with him, she can't say that he's tricked her into sex.

I don't claim to speak for all women but who do you think has a better idea of how women think and react in general? Is it Autoregressive? Is it you? Or do you think it's possibly me?

You must have a chip on your shoulder because you were raised to be one way and the women that you want to get don't react well to you. Guess what? You can be the fun guy that the girl will want to settle down with all without having to jeopardize your principles. Unless you want to wait for me to get knocked up and I'll start liking your facebook page.

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What I find crazy about guys like you mojo, is you have no experience with women, fuck...no experience with society, and there are guys like yourself who will speak on social dynamics / sexuality as if you have any experience. You probably cant name a woman who youve met who fit the mold you describe, and even if you could its due to your own weirdness and social ineptitude that you come across the fucked up ones...because you're fucked up yourself. Instead of having these talking points, why not say hey let me go and make a friend, let me go and have a few relationships, let me go and fix the failures in my life and live like a MAN...THEN come back and speak on what your experiences are. I'm sorry its crazy to me that you'd have to ask a neighbour about a package to have a conversation with a woman, you'll PAY women for their time, then come online and act like you know about the average woman or why a chick fucks who she fucks. I'm sorry but grow up, travel, make some friends and be a NORMAL FUCKING HUMAN BEING being before you come up with ideas of how women are. What is the basis for your ideas? MGTOW forums? Some bs before youve even touched a female's skin? Fix yourself before you ponder that girls arent fucking you because they'd rather get govt benefits. Many of you try to explain how women are or society are, when you've never had a woman and arent even part of society properly.

What I find crazy is… not even 2 hours after mojo scares off the reluctant JackZero from this thread, a “female” makes an account on this forum and starts reassuring men of “her” POV on how guys should treat girls.

Geez, something really smells off, especially if you read at what was said in the thread.

What could it be?

Anybody?

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Talk about reaching. Is this your way of trying to draw me back into arguing with you? I tried to get you to make clarity on a statement and you refuse to. There's no real reason to keep it going. To keep going in circles with you is insanity.

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Are you hot? I like your honesty.

I didn't join the forum just to help jack zero out. I saw what was being said and wanted to put in my opinion. I guess since my thoughts on this disagree with yours and me being female the only way you can argue it is to say that me and jack zero must be teaming up against you. You're pathetic.

That's not a fair question. I can say yes but you would still have to trust the answer.

Can a guy be upfront without being flirty? Problem is that I *do* have a chip on my shoulder and I'm in a shitty mood most of the time.

Female opinion needed... Can a pouty guy, in a shitty mood ever be attractive or do I really have to become fun? because omg its so painfull...Agggh!

I wish I could be both honest and deadpan boring and still get laid... That would be like Christmas everyday for me.

I can't see myself going for that type of attitude. You may not be a fun guy, but why would a girl enjoy being around you?

No, no, no. I'm not saying you're helping Jack.

You are Jack. Trolling on an alt account.

No coincidences.

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Lmao. So the only way that I can prove that I'm right is to pretend to be a girl? Let's not forget that absolutely no one has agreed with you up to this point, so I thought I needed help. Great logic there.

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Lmao. So the only way that I can prove that I'm right is to pretend to be a girl? Let's not forget that absolutely no one has agreed with you up to this point, so I thought I needed help. Great logic there. OMG I just said exactly what he said! You must be right! I am Jack zero!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on here for anyone capable of critical thinking.

No coincidences.

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