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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:58 pm 
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You're the guy who's a pickup artist that is obsessed with the lifestyle...but doesn't know what a basic push/pull is.
You're the guy who has found the easiest way to get women...but you need to find a way to close more women faster.
You're the guy that gets into the VIP because you bring girls...but you need photographers to access the hottest scenes.

This used to belong to galist, but I'm giving it to you now.
Lmao!

OP - I'd be interested in is whether you can actually post any stories of from your real life infields that have brought you up to this point in your game. What is your background? How long have you been doing pick up? What results have you had so far ect?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:54 am 
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I was raised to be chivalrous by a single mother. I kept having one dissatisfying relationship after the other. Mainly I just took what naturally came to me through work or school. I didn't like the way the women looked, and they pretty much just ran me until I couldn't take it anymore, and left.

After one last bad relationship I realized I could be doing something wrong and I began researching how to talk to women. I stumbled across David D's Cocky Funny book.

I had a paradigm shift. I started talking to women but then realized I was a poor conversationalist. I couldn't just spit one CF line after the other because it was a gimmick, and it lost it's power after a few times when the woman realized I was seeking a reaction.

Plus I also was annoyed with what seemed like this cold void between me and the women so I looked for something on touch.

That's when I got Paul Jenka's Book, Dale Carnegie's how to win friends and influence people, and Vin Dicarlo's escalation ladder.

If you're not familiar with these things a quick run down.

Paul Jenka teaches a system of just getting girls as you go about your natural life routine. The Dale Carnegie stuff teaches how to be likable and hold interesting conversations with people, and the escalation ladder teaches how to escalate touch all the way to sex.

So I studied these books for about a week and memorized everything and as I went about my life I started talking to all of the women I encountered that I liked. I started getting numbers and realized my phone game was weak.

That's when I studied text game, and how to set up dates that lead to sex as best as possible.

Now I had a nice system and an abundance of women in my life. I described it vaguely here: pua-lounge/the-power-listening-vt200001.html

I ran this same thing for about a year and a half to two years and it got boring. Plus there were a couple of other problems with it. I could only get women in situations where we were 1 on 1, and there wasn't much movement so we could talk for a bit. It didn't work in clubs at all because women are easily distracted in this environment (and later I found out it was due to a mental blueprint thing). It didn't work for women who were with other people. It didn't work with women who were in hurries walking in some other direction.

So even though I discovered abundance I could only access women under a specific set of circumstances. Therefore I was still limited.

That's when I started becoming obsessed. I started looking into anything related to pick-up I could.

That's when I learned about tracking my numbers to keep track of improvement. And about breaking the pick-up down into different stages, and using flirting, building comfort... All of that shit.

I also started looking into other things that could possibly be related that I could use to make my closing rate better.

That's when I started studying cognitive biases, human psychology, sales, negotiation, and fbi interrogation tactics.

I quit my job and started doing sales.

During this time I started going out in the day with the intent to pick-up women, and I started going to clubs.

Then I got the idea that I wanted to be around like minded people so I started joining forums. That's when I discovered that 99% of the guys on the forum are in fact not like me. 90% don't talk to women, and 9% are content with small levels of success.

But I got a few PUA wings and started going out with them. That was great for a while. I also started just talking with guys too and discovered how easily impressed they are with basic pick-up skills. I began creating social circles, but they would fall apart.

That's when I did what I always do. I looked for some professional training. And now I'm doing Gambler's social circle training. He isn't one of the teachers in the program but he endorses it.

After researching Gambler I found this forum. It took me a while to join it because I really don't like the make-up of pua forums. It's hard to find quality people who are really dedicated to reaching the heights of their lives on these things.

I only made an account so I could use the forum to start researching. The first thing I researched was push/pull because it's not something that is taught in depth in any of the other pick-up stuff I've learned from so far. But then I got the urge to make a few posts and I did. I got attacked immediately. :lol:

So far with my social circle training I've added bouncers from clubs, a few promoters, and a few women who make the plans for their groups of friends. The promoters let me and the women into the clubs for free, free drinks and vip wrist bands, and the bouncers protect my women. I also have a few guys who look up to me and follow my lead. (Not PUA's)

In the training they talk about adding photographers and rich guys as well as joining social clubs. Not just the glamour clubs.

Photographers gain access to celebrity parties, and the highest class events in the city because these people need someone to take the photos. That's going to be cool. I look forward to that life.

Now my plan is to create a massive social network and take over my city.

I'm even floating ideas about becoming the mayor, but I haven't committed to that just yet.

I'm just going to go mia for a while so I can simply study in peace.

Later.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:54 am 
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OP, you should go to this link and take a look because this describes you perfectly. I'm not saying this to be mean, but you should be concerned.
https://www.bpdcentral.com/narcissistic ... ks-of-npd/
Everything that you describe when it comes to your personality hits every bullet point. Even you'd be hard pressed to disagree with this.

Here are the bullet points...go to the link for a full description
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-Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

-Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

-Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable SPAM or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

-Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

-Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

-Requires excessive admiration

-Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

-Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

-Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:24 am 
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8th bullet point type of response.
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-Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:31 am 
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Naw bruh, you're just weak.

To elaborate why I believe you're weak. If I take that list of narcissistic tendencies I can relate every single one of them to you and point out specific examples where you've displayed them in our interactions.

You're using it as a way to make yourself feel special and better than others. Stop projecting. Like I said I'd rather learn in peace. I may make comments here and there on questions that guys ask, but other than that I have to stay away from the general population here. There's a nasty little group-think pervading this place. Not everyone, but a lot of you guys like to try and attack people's personalities and assassinate their characters in order to make yourselves look like some sort of hollier-than-though enlightened nonsense.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:39 am 
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Naw bruh, you're just weak.
I understand that you feel some type of way about it. It's probably a hard revelation to absorb. The fact that every single point that is described has an example from your own words. Actually, multiple examples. Hell, you calling me weak is an attempt to hold on to your narcissistic sense of superiority.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:01 am 
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Naw bruh, you're just weak.

To elaborate why I believe you're weak. If I take that list of narcissistic tendencies I can relate every single one of them to you and point out specific examples where you've displayed them in our interactions.

You're using it as a way to make yourself feel special and better than others. Stop projecting. Like I said I'd rather learn in peace. I may make comments here and there on questions that guys ask, but other than that I have to stay away from the general population here. There's a nasty little group-think pervading this place. Not everyone, but a lot of you guys like to try and attack people's personalities and assassinate their characters in order to make yourselves look like some sort of hollier-than-though enlightened nonsense.
Challenge accepted. Go through every bullet point and point out the things that make me narcissistic. The rules are that you can't interpret it as narcissistic. It has to be a direct narcissistic statement. I'm fine with you making the claim because I know why you're doing it. I know you won't take the challenge because there is a risk that you're wrong but you made the statement as a defensive mechanism. However, what's the risk in going to see a professional and have them rule it out? You have to admit that wanting to be a boss, believing that it's good to have people looking up to you and respecting you, thinking you are in the 1% of all guys on PUA forums, looking for photographers to use to elevate your status, planning to take over your city with a massive social network, having difficulty with the easiest way to pickup women through listening to them but not caring enough to actually listen to them, etc.. are all symptoms of NPD as described.

You may hate the forum...but at least you're getting something out of it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:36 am 
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I've had time to relax and take a more objective look at the list.

You know what. I like that shit. :twisted:

I'm not cold on the inside though. I'm an extremely empathetic and emotional person which comes from being raised by a woman. My niceness actually got me walked on, and taken advantage of back in the day.

A lot of that list is stuff I've had to work on to become.

Ambitious, confident, self motivated, hard working.

If you've spent hundreds of hours studying and practicing and testing out stuff in the field then I would have more respect for your opinions. I'm not a fan of arrogance or pretentiousness which is the perspective some of you guys are talking to me from.

Comparatively speaking...my confidence in my opinions was earned through hardwork. If you haven't noticed that I love learning from people by now then that's your fault. If I'm not listening to you then you aren't saying anything worth learning.

I can't take a guy who's studied and tested nothing who then just cracks a joke and retreats into dogmatic close-mindedness and group-think seriously. There's nothing to learn from that.

There are no rules saying I have to respect opinions born of ignorance. That's stupid as fuck.

By the way if you haven't experienced someone becoming jealous of you then you aren't doing shit worthy of being jealous of. And, don't sit there and pretend like jealousy doesn't exist and it's some sort of illusion an idiot without the ability to read people just makes up.

You paint a picture like I should be in freaking suicide squad or something. The pick-up villain with his henchmen and plans to conquer the city. We must stop him!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:47 am 
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Not only is this shitty music, it just stinks of insecurity.

If I was invited to a party playing this music, I'd turn around and walk out.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:58 am 
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Not only is this shitty music, it just stinks of insecurity.

If I was invited to a party playing this music, I'd turn around and walk out.
Music is a tool to be used to implant messages into your subconscious mind. Which get repeated back to you on autopilot through out the day and influences your behavior behind the scenes.

Check out this post:beliefs-and-confidence-building-self-es ... 00016.html

Here's another one for you:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXUTcxd6NE[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:16 am 
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I've had time to relax and take a more objective look at the list.

You know what. I like that shit. :twisted:

I'm not cold on the inside though. I'm an extremely empathetic and emotional person which comes from being raised by a woman. My niceness actually got me walked on, and taken advantage of back in the day.
NPD is developed as a young adult. Other factors can cause it outside of parenting. Being walked on and taken advantage of could be something to trigger it.
A lot of that list is stuff I've had to work on to become.
So you've conditioned yourself to become a narcissist. That actually makes sense. If you knew that you were creating those conditions, you probably wouldn't do it. However, recommending others to change themselves into someone with NPD shouldn't be done. Telling them to be a "boss" is pushing them a step into that direction.
Ambitious, confident, self motivated, hard working.
No one said you couldn't have good qualities and have NPD at the same time
If you've spent hundreds of hours studying and practicing and testing out stuff in the field then I would have more respect for your opinions. I'm not a fan of arrogance or pretentiousness which is the perspective some of you guys are talking to me from.
That's a grandiose attitude you have there. Wait...are you saying that you know what I do? No, you couldn't be saying that.
Comparatively speaking...my confidence in my opinions was earned through hardwork. If you haven't noticed that I love learning from people by now then that's your fault. If I'm not listening to you then you aren't saying anything worth learning.
Who said that you don't love learning from people?
I can't take a guy who's studied and tested nothing who then just cracks a joke and retreats into dogmatic close-mindedness and group-think seriously. There's nothing to learn from that.
Cool. I study and test. As a bonus, I'll also crack a joke or two. So I guess you can take me. I'm not sure how you can call me closed minded. I went from thinking that you were an arrogant asshole to understanding that you are possibly living with a disorder. You even stated that you conditioned yourself for this disorder. If you say that you actually created NPD traits yourself but refuse to accept the fact that you may have NPD because of your own admitted actions...who is the one that's actually closed-minded?
There are no rules saying I have to respect opinions born of ignorance. That's stupid as fuck.
Some guy named magipimp said the exact same thing to me, but he didn't want to accept who he was either.
By the way if you haven't experienced someone becoming jealous of you then you aren't doing shit worthy of being jealous of. And, don't sit there and pretend like jealousy doesn't exist and it's some sort of illusion an idiot without the ability to read people just makes up.
Everyone has had someone jealous of them. If you're trying to eliminate that from the checklist of things that make you a narcissist...a combination of 5 is what the minimum amount that a person with NPD can have. They don't have to have every one of them on the list. Although, I think the "99% of the guys on the forum" talk kind of shows that you think that everyone is jealous of you and that's why they "attack" you.
You paint a picture like I should be in freaking suicide squad or something. The pick-up villain with his henchmen and plans to conquer the city. We must stop him!
You said that you were going to take over your city with the gang that you're creating. Just stay out of Lawrenceville...I have family there.

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Man, this is a perfect example of why this community is viewed in a negative light.

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Here's another one for you:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXUTcxd6NE[/youtube]
I get that the creators of these videos mean well. I get it.

But that shit is cringe worthy.

The goal of personal evolution is to ultimately look outward and develop self-awareness. This is too much focus on the internal. And it's why the world is so fucked up.

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Man, this is a perfect example of why this community is viewed in a negative light.
This is fudge trying to get back into the forum again. I think this is the fifth profile he's created to this point. He'll probably deny it like he's done in the past and then get exposed.

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