Ok its a long and embarrassing story but ill summarise it to get the main points out. Basically sometime at the start of the year this girl i know became newly single and we talked here and there (she broke up with her bf coz she was getting bored and had sex the same night with her "childhood crush"). Anyways at one point we were messaging and she said she wants to fuck until i misinterpreted a few messages down the track (She said that I'm not fucking her - i thought it was literal, but when i re-read the messages she meant that she wants me to fuck her but i'm not doing it), so me being me decided that I'm friend zoning her coz i dont need that in my life. And i did it naturally too without trying but i generally didn't know (i hung around with her heaps, always let her make decisions etc.)

Then a few weeks later i re-read the messages and realised i made a massive mistake. But it didn't matter coz i was reading a lot of PUA threads and trying to use it IRL, and that i was gonna use it on her, which it worked to some extent, i hooked up with her then later got with a girl she didn't like infront of her. Me being me again i called her back to mine and she was on her period so i received nothing but a hookup - short one too (cringe). FYI the period thing was true she had to go doctors for it coz it lasted like 30+ days - she didn't tell me but i heard it through a mutual friend.

So apart from that, I saw her around 1-2 times a week at the gym or w/e and she constantly flirted with me and tried making physical moves on me but i just keep brushing it off and telling her go away - this lasted honestly a good 5ish months (i know its so cringe and embarrassing - but i didn't know how to initiate anything at a gym!!). I tried doing all these things to get out of the friend zone and bit by bit it looked like it was working and i was close. Until a few weeks ago (obviously lost attraction) where she basically said to my friend infront of me that she's moving on regarding trying to get with me. But I didn't stop trying.

The worst part was her childhood crush, It was so hard because this girl had been constantly expressing her love for her him and i just kept ignoring it and changing convo and telling her i dont care etc but its honestly intimidating (He's overseas for like 8 months btw - he's coming back in 4 months i think and she's still head over heels). Now I'm the youngest in my friends group and my friends are no homo really good looking guys(not saying that I'm not but its harder to be confident around them) and i said to her last week (idk why) that it annoys me when i go out. The next time i saw her last week she said she's gonna fuck one of them at her bday. Her bday comes and I'm not paying attention to her, Im talking to her friends blah blah. At the club (we were at her friends house before) she says she got with one of my friends to which i go up to him calmly ask "did you get with her or not?" and he says no (idk if he's lying but he would have no reason). Thats when i got angry and I'm not good at hiding it so my night was ruined and i felt like shit. This morning my friend messaged me saying she messaged him asking why i was all angry blah blah.

Now that you know the back story, what can i do to fuck this girl, like how do i build up my attraction again etc.

Why don't you finally make a fuckin decision and ask her out?

Because she's lost attraction to me so she might think it's just a friends date

She will be as long as you keep treating her like a friend. Whether the boat has sailed or not with this one is hard to tell, but start by flirting with her lightly, then escalate / kino, the same 2 steps forward and 1 step back. If she still views you as an option, she'll reciprocate and allow your advances. In many cases, a girl who views you as just a friend may feel somewhat weirded by these advances.

The better question is, is this girl actually worth the effort of getting out of the friend zone? Or do you just want her now because she's moved onto someone else?

This girl is bold enough to say, "I want to fuck you" or "I want to fuck him." She's one of the rare types that you can actually say "let's go fuck" and she would be cool about you being blunt about it.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com

That's a good point, i'll try escalating our situation and see what her reaction is. She hasn't moved on to anyone else at the moment, but I feel like if i do this it'll boost my confidence by a ton and i'll feel a lot better.

Maybe before, but now it's a little trickier and I think she'd get weird and pull away instantly if I said something along those lines to her

Then get her to go out or come over and escalate. Even with girls that you don't know, you have no choice but to do that if she's not throwing herself at you.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com

There's nothing really "tricky" here. Either she wants to fuck you or she doesn't. And oh well. There are other women. Also, all of the attractive women I've been with have had one simple rule:

Don't Bore Me.

Anything you say or do is better than Mr. Nice Guy. You'd be surprised at the effects shocking yet charming honesty has on a woman of value. I've been on a date with women who thought they were goddesses. The worst kind of princesses. Had I been the guy paying for everything and dropping roses, I'd be gone. Instead,I say what I'm thinking, which floors women. They love, absolutely love honest motherfuckers. Women are so accustomed to egg-shell-walking, pedestal providing, hide-your-intentions creepy nice guys that you can see the palpable relief and joy when she encounters a man who says what he thinks. It makes her comfortable VERY fast.


"Look at how huge the waitresses' tits are. Damn. It looks like she's about to fall over."

"Let's go to my place. But I'm going to be honest, I'm making a move as soon as we get inside".

"I'd pay for your drinks, but I'm a feminist".

'I normally prefer blondes, but you're not bad".

If she does pull away, it might not be for long. What this does is immediately takes you out of "I'm your pal" mode and let's her know just where you stand. And she may, a week or a month later, respect your honesty and hit you back.

Remember, game is not always about "right now". It's about planting the seeds for the future, too. All of our actions and behaviors come back to us later. And you'd be the guy who didn't waste her time, who was not afraid of his sexual desires. As she encounters dopey nice guy after dopey nice guy, she might get an itching for the shockingly honest bad boy you were.

It's happened to me.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.

Excellent statement

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com

Jesus that post was an eye opener because its one thing i genuinely did not try - being honest. Thanks a lot for that!!

Come back with an update. Even if you fail, posting that you made a move will only get you closer to results OP

_________________
In a funk? Read this

pua-lounge/the-importance-patience-this ... his%20game

Last night i went to go pick up some stuff from her and i could see a guy's car at the front and i was like wtf so she came up to my window and gave me my stuff and she was like "whats wrong" and i said "nothing bye" which was stupid. She messaged me the whole night asking what my problem was and i just didn't reply or answer her calls. Then i look at her snapchat story and its her girl friends car and a few girl friends were over LOL. But apart from that i probably won't see her for a good month or two because i have no reason to. I guess that's better though, maybe a bit of distance will help make the transition to actually fucking her easier.

You need to keep your emotions under control, or at least learn to hide them from women, lol.

Either way, it's better to come off as a dick than a nice guy.

This is how I would text/respond, tonight (any girl that blows up your phone is invested):

Hey, I had to care for a sick aunt last night so things were a bit crazy. I could use some fun, so I'm grabbing a movie at my place tonight. You're welcome to join.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.

I'm usually really good at hiding my emotions infront of girls but i don't know what happened to me last night haha. It's too late for that now i think, but i'll definitely do something similar like that next time with her, so thanks for that!