Hey guys, I'm faily new here and I was hoping someone could help me out. I suck with girls and want to get a lot better with girls. I'll try to keep this short, so here's a summary. I'm trying to meet girls and get better through tinder. I get a lot of matches, well a few. However, I start it off and I get replies; however, they lose interest really fast and stop replying. What am I doing wrong? I'll give an example

Example 1:

ME: Heyy!! What's up?
HER: Nothing. Haha how are you?
ME: Started off with a rough day, then I matched with you and all of a sudden things are much better, you know?
HER: Oh, how smooth are you with the lines!!!!
ME: Haha it's not a line, I promise, I found out my class for tonight got cancelled after i matched with you! If that's not saying something haha
HER: Hahahaha where do you stay? And what do you do?
ME: I work for a mulitibillon dollar company. I am incharge of efficiently overseeing company output and ensuring client satisfaction at one of our many locations.
ME: I'm from New jersey. how about you?
Her: Fresh Meadows, NY
HER: Of course put in a few complicated words with sugar coating and make the girl think they're dating mark zukerberg
ME: I work for McDonald's.
ME: I'm just playing! I'm actually a professional assassin working for a league of assassins.
ME: Let's hope you're into that kind of humor. That's in Queens right?
HER: Yes, from Queens.
HER: Borderline Long Island
HER: Do you have IG?
ME: Not bad. We're only about 45 mins away
ME: However, I do not have IG. I;m not a big picture person. I do have snap chat though
ME: So what do you do for fun, when you're not trying to save lives? (she's a doctor)

She didn't reply after that. It's been two days. What should me next move be? She was replying fast, then stopped. The back to back texts are in the same time frame back to back

Your messaging girls 3-1 Mr Thirsty.

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Cringe worthy. you put her on a pedestal right away.

Already explaining yourself two lines in, lol.

God damn that is thirsty texting.


So try hard.


I'm shocked.

Here's how it should have gone:

You: Hey, what's up?
Her: Not much. You?
You: I'm heading to Bar X tomorrow night at 9pm. Let's meet up.

Then you wait.

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What the fuck are you doing?

You're absolutely right. I mean, I'm so new to this and I guess I'm desperate. I don't know. I'm trying to work on it and get better. Sad part is, I thought that was decent. Smh. Any advice on how I can open from now or salvage this? Should I message her? Thank you so much for taking the time to respond

Thank you for replying bro. I really appreciate it. I know, I really suck. That's why I'm trying to get better. This truly sucks. But yeah, I start conversations, like people are attracted, then the texting kills it. Sad part is, I thought I was somewhat decent for a newbie.

How would you have responded to the oh, how smooth you are with the lines?

But I wanted to get to know her a bit and invite her for drinks. I'm in Jersey and she's from NY. So it wasn't that easy without any connections or anything. I didn't think she'd just come to the bar with a stranger.

I honestly don't know bro. I can't begin to explain how bad and new I am at this. What sucks was I thought that those texts were decent. Any advice on how to go from here on in? I appreciate the feedback bro

No problem.



I wouldn't have responded to that specific text. I would have re-framed to a meet-up.

Her: Aren't you smooth with the lines?
You: Ha. BTW, I'm headed to Bar X Wednesday night at 9. Let's meet up.

As you get better, you'll learn to navigate mine fields and increase efficiency until you're in bed with her.

Take a sticky note and write this on it: "text girls as you would if you were in bed with three women". Then stick the note to the back of your phone. Many of your text replies will look like "sweet", "cool", "alright", "sounds good". Chill. laid back. Simple. Not novels of emotion or try-hard gamey goofiness that scare girls away.

This is most important early on. You can dial this way back once a girls says she loves you or with a girl who hits you up 3-4x a week for sex.


You get to know her when you meet for a drink. If she won't meet, game other women.

There are plenty of women who will.

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You seemed try-hard and she seemed vapid. That was going nowhere in a hurry.

And as a general note for the next time you text/IM:

I agree with the the above suggestions to try and arrange an in-person meet up as soon as possible. Regarding answering her questions about work/location - no point in humor there, just be succinct in your answers.

PS - the "I work for McDonald's" joke is a personal favorite of mine - but only when she obviously knows you work in a respectable career and is showing attraction towards you.

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Thank you again my friend. Yeah, I messed up bad. Do you think I should message her again? I was thinking of something like teasing and sexual, "couldn't handle me huh? " I feel like she just wanted some fun

Honestly though, thank you. I write way too much, I have to quit that. But, I'll take what you've given me and work on it. Hopefully I do work through these minefields in time

Absolutely. I messed up, I haven't been with many girls so I automatically panic if they're pretty because I want them and I mess up. I don't know. I have to try a technique of picturing myself with girls while texting like a user suggested. Thank you though bro, I'll go for the meeting as fast as I can from now. Yeah, I thought that joke was amazing when I wrote it and then it was downhill

Thank you so much R.C. That's gold!! I'll try to add on some of the tactics into my game. Any ideas on where to go with this girl? Should I message her?

Yes. Be the non-gamey leader that you weren't before and straight up ask her to meet up at a bar two days out.

If she ignores you, who gives a fuck? There are many women out there. But the point is to go for what you want in a congruent, confident fashion, and to immediately move on if she's not keen.

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reading this post made me realize i can be such a bitch while texting. I totally come across as a pathetic loser who is in deperate need of affection. I like the line about text her as if you are in bed with 3 hot girls....that's good